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      10-09-2009, 06:45 PM   #249
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Originally Posted by Suareezay View Post
Gee, I wonder where I could have gotten that idea.
Just like I've been saying, I clearly understand the two fold nature of insulin as both a fat storage hormone and an immensely strong anabolic hormone.

Americans are obese because they are overconsuming carbohydrates and not matching that consumption with anywhere near the activity needed to use that fuel as energy. That is what I am attempting to point out when I explain that fat produces bile release and carbohydrate produces an insulin response. Alot of people think that fat makes you fat but this is not the case as the culprit is often times overconsumption of carbohydrate particularly the refined grains and sugar that is rampant in our food supply.

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Once again youre shifting the goal posts by bringing in factors outside of the discussion.
I pointed to the fact that veggies and ice cream despite both being carbohydrates are not equal. Saying that you'll make it up elsewhere is "bringing in factors outside of the discussion."

I'm calling bullshit on the whole it doesn't matter how much fat and carbohydrate you eat nor which foods you choose to fill those requirements a long as you have enough protein. I'm also calling out the energy balancing equation because there is far more to it than that due to our sick population whose internal function presents blocking factors to weight loss and health.

I do lab testing for hormone, immune, digestion, and detoxification issues on people around the country. I have yet to test an individual whose is functioning at 100% due to the toxicity that is now present everywhere and the innumerable stressors. The energy equation may only be applicable to individuals who present with no blocking factors or internal dysfunction. This is a rarity from my experience.

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Your reading comprehension appears to be lacking.
Looks like yours needs work.

Now I'm quoting you
"In the context of isocaloric diets, the proportions of fat to carbs doesn't matter."

"It all just means that from a body composition standpoint, once protein ia accounted for, it doesnt make much of a difference where the rest of your calories come from; they will have to come from either carbs or fat, and for the most part the proportions dont really matter."

"Because, generally, people who have good body composition are more active , manage their calories to some degree, get adequate protein, EFAs, etc. People with shitty body composition are less active, eat too much, dont get adequate protein, EFAs, etc."

You said the proportions of carbs to fat doesn't matter yet essential fatty acids from fats are now mentioned as an vital source of nutrition to improve body composition. Is 5% of calories from fat good enough to provide those EFAs as it doesn't matter what the ratio of fat to carbohydrate is? Will 5% of calories from fat be OK for a male in his 20s? How will he manufacture ample testosterone without cholesterol from fat?

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Originally Posted by Suareezay View Post
Im not looking for help. Especially not from the shills at tmuscle.
We know you're not looking for help. Your head is glued shut incapable of seeing anything but your own perspective.

Christian Thibaudeau is a shill. Give me a break. You just have a deep rooted feeling that anything of Tnation has no value.
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