[azn_fcuk]

Originally Posted by Bluex

If there is indeed some sort of delay, the cynic in me wonders if it’s being done deliberately to create some artificial demand to sell the existing M5’s sitting on some lots.

But I literally know nothing of what I’m talking about, just “wake-up theorizing” 🤣

what might be a contributing factors is some of the parts shortages, i know as im tracking my build it states due to parts shortages there might be delays. Also, might be slowed down to fix the recall of the current builds before they leave port.

[masd79]

Originally Posted by Bluex

If there is indeed some sort of delay, the cynic in me wonders if it’s being done deliberately to create some artificial demand to sell the existing M5’s sitting on some lots.

But I literally know nothing of what I’m talking about, just “wake-up theorizing” 🤣

Wishful thinking, every time I see a photo ad of an m5 in my local dealers I ask them and they are gone.. I think the people that ordered are backing out but there are plenty of people out there shopping for a v8 beast with 700+ hp and grab it because there is anything close to this level of luxury and power and tech that competes with it today. I honestly think the g80ers are moving into it quietly because they hate the fact it’s become a new dodge charger and every kid in the block is driving them.

[GJBFI]

Originally Posted by masd79

Wishful thinking, every time I see a photo ad of an m5 in my local dealers I ask them and they are gone.. I think the people that ordered are backing out but there are plenty of people out there shopping for a v8 beast with 700+ hp and grab it because there is anything close to this level of luxury and power and tech that competes with it today. I honestly think the g80ers are moving into it quietly because they hate the fact it’s become a new dodge charger and every kid in the block is driving them.

That’s my case. Moving tomorrow from G80 to G90 notably for that reason.

[Bluex]

Originally Posted by masd79

I honestly think the g80ers are moving into it quietly because they hate the fact it’s become a new dodge charger and every kid in the block is driving them.

There is some REAL truth to this. I had toyed going from my F80 to a G80.

I was at my son's college hockey game and there was a G80 comp in the parking lot as I was walking out of the arena with him and I was looking at it and my son (who again, is a senior in college) goes to me: "You like that car dad? That belongs to my teammate."

I responded: "Thanks...you just helped me out with my car decision."

[azn_fcuk]

Originally Posted by masd79

Wishful thinking, every time I see a photo ad of an m5 in my local dealers I ask them and they are gone.. I think the people that ordered are backing out but there are plenty of people out there shopping for a v8 beast with 700+ hp and grab it because there is anything close to this level of luxury and power and tech that competes with it today. I honestly think the g80ers are moving into it quietly because they hate the fact it’s become a new dodge charger and every kid in the block is driving them.

Ive had the F82 M4 Comp... its an awesome car if all you wanted was to stunt, drag and drift. I drove this thing daily and after the honeymoon phase was over, I completely hated it except on Friday nights and when I needed to prove a point or show off.

The F90 didnt have the executive look and feel that I wanted for a daily, it was just too aggressive looking which was why I went to a E63 and if Mercedes had recently launched an updated e63 LCI and not just an e53 hybrid, id have gone that route. The G90's gives the best of both worlds, it looks executive and commands that subtle gaze of awe and attention and performs adequately and maybe not as nimble and light as the G80's but for a fast performing daily, it hits the mark completely (less the plastically inferior interior of course grrrrr!).

[EUPremier]

Originally Posted by Cannondale900

I've seen two YT videos now mentioning the poor fitment of the fuel door. Has anyone that has taken delivery of their G90/G99 noticed the same issue?

I wonder if there are some QC problems on top of other issues.

I ordered my G90 in June 2024.

It arrived at Dealer around Dec 10th 2024.

So, it was built in November 2024.

The fuel filler door fits perfectly.

In fact, all the lines are perfect and the doors are all perfectly flush.

Note: I did not opt for CCBs.

[masd79]

Originally Posted by azn_fcuk

Ive had the F82 M4 Comp... its an awesome car if all you wanted was to stunt, drag and drift. I drove this thing daily and after the honeymoon phase was over, I completely hated it except on Friday nights and when I needed to prove a point or show off.

The F90 didnt have the executive look and feel that I wanted for a daily, it was just too aggressive looking which was why I went to a E63 and if Mercedes had recently launched an updated e63 LCI and not just an e53 hybrid, id have gone that route. The G80's gives the best of both worlds, it looks executive and commands that subtle gaze of awe and attention and performs adequately and maybe not as nimble and light as the G80's but for a fast performing daily, it hits the mark completely (less the plastically inferior interior of course grrrrr!).

Yep, plus it brings back the German sports sedan to life because Audi and Mercedes in my opinion are lost except rs6. G80 is good but I honestly don’t want compliments from tweens…

[CarlosM4]

Here in Brazil, I don't see a move from G80 to G90 owners, and I believe this is only applicable to the US, where anyone who can write their name can lease a M3 G80 for cheap. This doesn't happen worldwide.

[CarlosM4]

Originally Posted by masd79

Yep, plus it brings back the German sports sedan to life because Audi and Mercedes in my opinion are lost except rs6. G80 is good but I honestly don’t want compliments from tweens…

The E53 AMG appears to be bloody brilliant, getting far more praise than the new M5. I feel dumb for not having a crack at it when I was in Germany.

If they come out with a E63 S AMG with the V8 engine and that chassis (which was confirmed recently), I am not sure the M5 will be in a good place, BMW will have to come with CP versions to make it tighter.

Everyone is a bit lost, but so is BMW. I ordered and liked the G90 M5 for what it is, but its not a M5.

[azn_fcuk]

Originally Posted by masd79

Yep, plus it brings back the German sports sedan to life because Audi and Mercedes in my opinion are lost except rs6. G80 is good but I honestly don’t want compliments from tweens…

haha yes. These days I love it compliments from real car enthusiasts less the giggity tween..... fuck is this my way of saying im old.

[GJBFI]

Originally Posted by CarlosM4

The E53 AMG appears to be bloody brilliant, getting far more praise than the new M5. I feel dumb for not having a crack at it when I was in Germany.

If they come out with a E63 S AMG with the V8 engine and that chassis (which was confirmed recently), I am not sure the M5 will be in a good place, BMW will have to come with CP versions to make it tighter.

Everyone is a bit lost, but so is BMW. I ordered and liked the G90 M5 for what it is, but its not a M5.

The M5 will remain in a better position for several reasons, but the main one is that Mercedes-AMG will once again try to sell its product at a completely ridiculous price.

[azn_fcuk]

Originally Posted by CarlosM4

The E53 AMG appears to be bloody brilliant, getting far more praise than the new M5. I feel dumb for not having a crack at it when I was in Germany.

If they come out with a E63 S AMG with the V8 engine and that chassis (which was confirmed recently), I am not sure the M5 will be in a good place, BMW will have to come with CP versions to make it tighter.

Everyone is a bit lost, but so is BMW. I ordered and liked the G90 M5 for what it is, but its not a M5.

I havent driven a new E53, dealer has a no test drive rule on new AMG's. The interior was superior in every fashion except the dash cluster, small and fugly. E class with the air ride suspension is very comfortable on a daily and long distance commute, way better than any BMW. Still, it was a V6 hybrid and the dealer admits performance wise, it just catches up W213 however you dont get 2wheel drive options or the full AMG experience. If there was an E63 variant....I likely have gone that route solong it remained a V8 variation.

I agree, this F90 isnt a 'real' M5 but the E53 wasnt an E63 either yet was priced near almost the same as the G90, if theres an E63 its likely $20-$30k more. All in all, price and value, exterior dominating boss appearance the G90 hits the mark.

[FloridaM5]

Looking forward to the new e63 as well. Hope it happens. If it does, amg could make some waves again, which is certainly welcome.

I think the g90 is a real m5 but it suffers the same fate as most of the m cars at the moment. Too much of a compromise and none of them are a thrill to drive when stock…too soft suspension-wise, top end is neutered, exhaust too quiet, zf programming is a bit lazy. All are fixable in the aftermarket. Will be interesting to see how raw you can make the g90 feel.

[grabbou]

I have been told delays at least in EU are particularly due to CCB shortage

[Bluex]

Originally Posted by azn_fcuk

haha yes. These days I love it compliments from real car enthusiasts less the giggity tween..... fuck is this my way of saying im old.

When I first purchased my F80 I got compliments from the 40+ year old car enthusiast. It was a hit at Cars & Coffee. In the latter days of my ownership (as in these past 2 years) compliments came from the tween-set.

Compliments went from being really appreciated and a conversation starter to just "bruh like your ride, lets race" and embarrassing. I can only imagine the G80 is all that on hyperdrive.

[masd79]

Originally Posted by CarlosM4

The E53 AMG appears to be bloody brilliant, getting far more praise than the new M5. I feel dumb for not having a crack at it when I was in Germany.

If they come out with a E63 S AMG with the V8 engine and that chassis (which was confirmed recently), I am not sure the M5 will be in a good place, BMW will have to come with CP versions to make it tighter.

Everyone is a bit lost, but so is BMW. I ordered and liked the G90 M5 for what it is, but its not a M5.

See I don’t know if I agree with that. The e53 with the new sticker package and how it appears does not look executive and falls more into the m3 and below category of sports sedans. I don’t what the word is, to me it’s just not classy. I am 45 and wouldn’t want to be caught dead driving a Mercedes that looks like a scat pack equivalent..

[masd79]

Think m5 as a runaway car for criminals like ronin, money heist, James Bond types of movies. The e53 and m3 are more bad boys, baby driver and fast and the furious type.. I’m really dating my self here.. oh yea remember desert rose by sting and the m5, that’s what i think of how e63, m5 and rs6 to embody. Aka don’t mess with me on a roll, you will be embarrassed because I will just pin it while you spool up.. and that’s it, I’m taking the exit with a smile…. One could argue the new m5 could stun a 911 turbo S, huracans too if they don’t plan well lol