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      11-21-2017, 07:27 AM   #45
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      11-21-2017, 07:34 AM   #46
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The dealers I have been frequenting in the Miami area do not move on either the trade or sales price... kind of laughable.

Again... let me repeat my point... car private party online value - $12-$13k, dealer offered 6

Car for sale $34k... available elsewhere for 31... dealer wont budge.

Add dealer fees to that... this is sexual assault the way I see it.
I don't buy anything in Miami. Worst of the worst bottom of the barrel scum. I have family that lives down there and it's the only reason I go down there at all. One time for shits and giggles I stopped to look at a car they had advertised on this site I see online all the time with decent pricing on cars (advertised). Their website is pretty nice and probably one of the best ones I've seen.

I pull up to this place and I swear I thought I was at some kind of flea market. Music blasting all the sharks standing around. They barely had any cars there, the inside of the dealer was basically one long ass table with computers every 5ft or so and behind that another long desk where I guess all the managers sat. I asked where the cars were and he said they keep most of them in another location he would have to drive us to. This guy takes one of the cars they had for sale (which he mentioned was actually already sold) an Audi A8 and drives us to the other location. This dude isnt even slowing down for speed bumps all I could think of was the poor bastard who bought the car.

Anyways went off on rant, needless to say didn't buy anything there and just reaffirms my belief never to buy anything in Miami.
well, I cannot argue with you sir...

I think a massive part of the problem down here in this area are the crowds that typically buy cars-

1) Dumbasses or simple people that dont know math and can easily get taken advantage of.
2) Very wealthy that simply dont care.

The 2 groups above ruin the market for everyone...
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      11-21-2017, 11:07 AM   #47
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My SA told me many people pay msrp in the bay area.

Mindblowing.
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      11-21-2017, 12:28 PM   #48
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well, I cannot argue with you sir...

I think a massive part of the problem down here in this area are the crowds that typically buy cars-

1) Dumbasses or simple people that dont know math and can easily get taken advantage of.
2) Very wealthy that simply dont care.

The 2 groups above ruin the market for everyone...
Yup my uncle being one of them. Bought a car for the first time ever as he's always driven old cars my father or other uncle would give him.

I helped him buy a cheap used car and when I asked him what he could afford he said like $600/month. We were looking at sub $10k cars so that goes to show how little he knew about how much cars actually cost. I don't remember the exact deal but ended up getting a CPO Hyundai Accent and I can guarantee you had I not been there he would be paying $600/month for a Hyundai Accent.
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