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      05-24-2021, 10:51 AM   #309
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Congrats to MAX on a great drive, only real challenge was closing the door on BOT at the start, then it was a nice Sunday drive after that.

Quite a snooze fest actually, there where only a handful of passes the entire race at the bottom of the grid.

Happy for Sainz and Lando for finishing on the podium...disaster in the pits and strategy for Merc.
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that’s wild, I saw the metal flecks during the second attempt. I bet they redesign it entirely.



Sure brutal all round, but totos statement on stopping an inch too early is odd. Haas and AM pit crews appear well trained to adjusting to drivers errors in the pits. I’m sure Guenther will offer his opinion on the matter.
It would be fitting if Bottas uttered 'A wheel A wheel for my Kingdom' as he sat helpless in his 12. (as opposed to a horse..
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It would be fitting if Bottas uttered 'A wheel A wheel for my Kingdom' as he sat helpless in his 12. (as opposed to a horse..
The "Live" pit stop from MAX in Monaco...Magic !!!

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The "Live" pit stop from MAX in Monaco...Magic !!!

My friend it's been suggested by Brawn jokingly that Merc gave RB a gift at Monaco.. If I were Toto I would send the freed drilled wheel nut from BOT's car to Brawn as a return of humour
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that’s wild, I saw the metal flecks during the second attempt. I bet they redesign it entirely.
That's a positive mate . Metal flecks (shavings/splinters)
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that’s wild, I saw the metal flecks during the second attempt. I bet they redesign it entirely.
I'm actually more curious to see if they find out it wasn't hardened or hard coated properly. That seems more likely to me than cross threading, or really anything else I can think of.
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I'm actually more curious to see if they find out it wasn't hardened or hard coated properly. That seems more likely to me than cross threading, or really anything else I can think of.
The initial report is that the wheel nut "machined" itself into the axle....why would the nut be harder than the axle, thus allowing the axle to be damaged?

From a metallurgical perspective, wouldn't the axle be harder and tougher than the wheel nut??
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The initial report is that the wheel nut "machined" itself into the axle....why would the nut be harder than the axle, thus allowing the axle to be damaged?

From a metallurgical perspective, wouldn't the axle be harder and tougher than the wheel nut??
A report described that the right front wheel gun completely sheared off the teeth it was supposed to lock onto.
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A report described that the right front wheel gun completely sheared off the teeth it was supposed to lock onto.
Thank you 3798j -
If I'm viewing this correctly, the wheel nut teeth were ground off or sheared off by the wheel gun?? Is that a correct interpretation??

If yes, would this mean the wheel nut metal composition is too soft and the rotational force of the gun overwhelmed the wheel nut??
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If I'm viewing this correctly, the wheel nut teeth were ground off or sheared off by the wheel gun?? Is that a correct interpretation??
Yep...take a look...a MB wheel nut and a Force India wheel nut socket (not a fit for the MB, but you can get the idea).
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Yep...take a look...a MB wheel nut and a Force India wheel nut socket (not a fit for the MB, but you can get the idea).
The obvious question....why is the wheel nut metallurgy so soft it can be sheared off by the gun??
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Attending the F1 in Monaco this year was supposed to be my 60th Birthday celebration. I'm seriously pissed about this.
Happy 60th! Next year just celebrate like it's your 60th!
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Congrats to MAX on a great drive, only real challenge was closing the door on BOT at the start,
I wonder if Bottas thought about not lifting off the throttle and allowing Verstappen to drive into him.
It would have been fun for a moment until utter carnage ensued.
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I wonder if Bottas thought about not lifting off the throttle and allowing Verstappen to drive into him.
It would have been fun for a moment until utter carnage ensued.
If he really was “MERC’s lapdog” as two on here suggest, that’s probably what we would have seen.
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This race has become a snoozer Monaco isn't what it was in the past. The cars are to big and fast for this track. There is no room for a pass here.

As far as Ric it really shows how certain driving styles do not work in certain cars. You can adapt or end out of F1 due an incompatible driving styles with certain cars.
I was just rewatching the Historics at Monaco, and you can see how much fun has been sucked out with the latest F1 turbo car generation out of this track.
Also feel bad for RIC, I was hoping to see Lando/Carlos show taken to the next level, but Daniel isn’t there with the MCL.
And for once, it’s great to see a podium with 3 teams represented, and none of them is MB 😂
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If he really was “MERC’s lapdog” as two on here suggest, that’s probably what we would have seen.
Make it 3...BOT is a worthless lapdog. Why piss off HAM with a better replacement until you need to?

All MB wants is a driver good enough to secure constructor championships. Toto doesn't want another "Starwars" on his hands. Once grandma can't accomplish that mission he will be gone. Should HAM leave BOT certainly isn't talented enough to be a #1. RUS stepped in the car for one race and proved that.
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Did Max win the WDC and someone not tell me? How are we crowing this much over one uneventful race? Like a win is a win, but this is overdoing it.
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Update from MB re the wheel nut....

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The obvious question....why is the wheel nut metallurgy so soft it can be sheared off by the rotational force of the wheel gun??

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...0JyPEEb7M.html
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Did Max win the WDC and someone not tell me? How are we crowing this much over one uneventful race? Like a win is a win, but this is overdoing it.
You don't like people talking on a forum?
Then dont read.....


Did anyone saw that nice little drift VER made in the last corner before the final straight/finish?
You can say a lot about VER, but you can't say he's a boring driver (of course he has done some crazy drifts before...)

For sure without VER F1 would be extremely boring.
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You don't like people talking on a forum?
Then dont read.....


Did anyone saw that nice little drift VER made in the last corner before the final straight/finish?
You can say a lot about VER, but you can't say he's a boring driver (of course he has done some crazy drifts before...)

For sure without VER F1 would be extremely boring.
If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it?
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If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it?
Why wouldnt I read it?
I'm not against certain discussions on this forum, you are....

I believe you don't fully grasp the concept of an internet forum...
Who are you to say whether other people shouldnt discuss something...
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