[Ikester19]

Originally Posted by keylime503

What's wrong with the F22 build quality? I had an M240i for 3 years and I never had a single complaint about build quality.

Particularly interior and trim quality, use of materials such as harder plastics and attention to details when compared to say a 3 series.

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by Ikester19

Particularly interior and trim quality, use of materials such as harder plastics and attention to details when compared to say a 3 series.

The M2/M2C does have more hard plastic, but the quality of the materials are superb. Fit and finish is as good as any BMW sold today.

[hector]

Originally Posted by clee1982

For US market? no way

Oops; meant 230.

[W///]

Really my only concern about the G87 is if they can keep the weight reasonable, and if carbon buckets will be available.

Everything else should be one step up from the current M2C, which is a legendary car as far as I'm concerned. Steering will evolve, interior will be on par with 3 series/X3 which is a big jump, S58 with 6MT will be a known quantity from the M3/4.

If this ends up being the last 3 pedal M car, I have almost no choice but to make room for one

[Al Bundy's Dodge]

Originally Posted by ChrisK

The M2/M2C does have more hard plastic, but the quality of the materials are superb. Fit and finish is as good as any BMW sold today.

It's kinda interesting and depends on perspective...having taken a "step down" from a couple 3 series to the M2, I definitely agree the interior feels a bit cheap, or at least lacking some luxury. But my wife, who's DD is a 4 runner, and other friends look at the interior and think it's really nice.

At any rate, it makes no difference to me. It's nice enough for my tastes without being over the top. I wasn't looking for fancy, just some basic creature comforts and a car that was fun as hell to drive.

[Hegge]

Originally Posted by Ikester19

The size looks right as does its silhouette. I hope the build quality is better than current gen 2 series coupes. The G87 in RWD, S58 engine, under 3500lbs, with carbon bucket seats will be a winning recipe!!

The G87 M2 will be over 3,500 pounds, not under.

[535i MSport]

Originally Posted by paliknight

This is being different without destroying the design. Not the current G80 garbage.

Not sure why they couldn't do this with the G80

I could look at that all day.

[E90M3velocity]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

With the G80/82 series...

The new double claws style digital instrument cluster is

Give me back that classic BMW cluster or give me a true racing style cluster dominated by a tachometer, a speedo with EGT, water temp and oil temp readings on the side

I am quite disappointed with the amount of weight gain but guess there isn't much Markus Flasch's team can do as they are constrained by the inherent footprint of the G20/22 chassis

I am resting my hope on the G87 M2

I hear you, at least give us an analogue rpm centered to the driver flanked by digital displays. Kinda like Porsche, minus the different pods for each display

[ADEe92]

Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

I think G42 will be similar to G29 with roof, back seat & bigger trunk.

So basically a 2+2 Supra with a back seat (and better styling!)

[BMWGirlFL]

Originally Posted by ADEe92

So basically a 2+2 Supra with a back seat (and better styling!)

& better intelligence/tech & & & ...

[stylinexpat]

Originally Posted by ADEe92

So basically a 2+2 Supra with a back seat (and better styling!)

The Supra would have sold well had it been a 2+2. 2+2 allows for more legroom in the front and the capability for front seats to recline further back making car more usable. They really messed up by not making the Supra a 2+2

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by ADEe92

So basically a 2+2 Supra with a back seat (and better styling!)

And a freaking manual!!!!!!!

[keylime503]

Originally Posted by Ikester19

Particularly interior and trim quality, use of materials such as harder plastics and attention to details when compared to say a 3 series.

I'm very surprised to hear that people have this opinion. I had an F32 before my F22 and the build quality and amount/type/feel of plastics seemed exactly the same to me. F22/F30/F32 interiors are basically the same anyways, the center console design is just a touch narrower on the F22.

[Vivek.]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

And a freaking manual!!!!!!!

Is the G42 available in a manual (stateside)? I was building an m240 and there was no option for a 3-pedal version on bmwusa. One of my friends just a year or so ago ordered a 6mt m240 convertible and that seems to be gone now

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Vivek.

Is the G42 available in a manual (stateside)?

With near 100% certainty, there will be no manual transmissions anywhere.

The G87 will be available with a 6MT.

[Vivek.]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

With near 100% certainty, there will be no manual transmissions anywhere.

The G87 will be available with a 6MT.

Damn I should go buy that 2017 6mt 240 that's been on the local CL for a few months now.

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

With near 100% certainty, there will be no manual transmissions anywhere.

The G87 will be available with a 6MT.

Sorry yes, only the G87. Looking forward to seeing that car. Basically a newer/better/faster version of the Supra, but available with a manual.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

Sorry yes, only the G87. Looking forward to seeing that car. Basically a newer/better/faster version of the Supra, but available with a manual.

Perfect

The Zupra is absolutely horrific in the looks department

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by keylime503

I'm very surprised to hear that people have this opinion. I had an F32 before my F22 and the build quality and amount/type/feel of plastics seemed exactly the same to me. F22/F30/F32 interiors are basically the same anyways, the center console design is just a touch narrower on the F22.

I had the feeling people are comparing the F22 to the current G-series 3er, i.e. the G20. The interior quality of the G20 is considered much better by most compared to the F30 (or F22).

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by mbanck

I had the feeling people are comparing the F22 to the current G-series 3er, i.e. the G20. The interior quality of the G20 is considered much better by most compared to the F30 (or F22).

The G20 is leaps and bounds better.

[keylime503]

Originally Posted by mbanck

I had the feeling people are comparing the F22 to the current G-series 3er, i.e. the G20. The interior quality of the G20 is considered much better by most compared to the F30 (or F22).

Well that's apples to oranges then. You can't say "the 2 series interior sucks compared to the 3 series" if by 3 series you mean the G20.

The F22, F30, and F32 interiors are nearly identical. As they were designed to be.

[Moflow]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

Sorry yes, only the G87. Looking forward to seeing that car. Basically a newer/better/faster version of the Supra, but available with a manual.

The MKIV Supra that everyone wants and idolizes has:

A 6-speed manual
back seats
twin turbos

I don't know how they got it so wrong, but thankfully the M2 Comp has all of those things and Toyota was even nice enough to make me reconsider my rule of "Nah, i probably don't want to own a BMW."