[buddalun]

Incredible. The driving is relentless, the car is epic, and the sound is glorious.

[dgp]

Originally Posted by Motorsportenterprise

I will

And it will also be a real production car which is verified via independent observers, not some car they won't let anyone see (because it's not a production vehicle). Something about this lap does not add up at all. Open to being wrong but until someone can verify the dots just don't connect.

In the meantime AMG GTR bested 918 time at the ring by an independent driver from SportAuto (7.11 vs 7.13 for 918)

[AW335TT]

Originally Posted by FrostyDC4

Tires?

Trofeo R

[AW335TT]

Amazing time, but that car is clearly running roll cage, i kind of doubt its going to come with one.. but who knows, I could be wrong.

It did the lap on bespoke set of Trofeo Rs, which on a 7 min lap, make a huge difference

Chris Harris has a video comparin the Trofeo R to Cup 2s on a GT3 and on a 2 min lap it was like 2 second difference. That gap is even bigger against P zero Corsas.. and on such a long lap, the advantage from the tires is quiet large.

The onboard of this video shows no roll cage.

[AW335TT]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

I watched this vid a couple of times. And THAT is probably one of if not the most amazing parts.

188 on the straight.

[AW335TT]

Passenger seat also looks like its been removed.

Door panels also look like they have been changed.

Driver seat itself also doesnt match the video posted above.

I think its safe to say, this car IS NOT what the customer will get.

[david in germany]

[W///]

Originally Posted by Motorsportenterprise

I disagree. The new GT2 RS is going to beat this in very short time.

I'd like to know if this was a production model or some stripped out version that won't even be the real thing that people buy. And also tires. No independent person was allowed to inspect the car which tells me there is something not so legit about the time. Very big Lamborghini fan too.

We'll have to see about that. It would be a little weird (at least to me) that their flagship 911 beat their own hyper car.

[attila]

I believe the video is played at a higher frame rate than recorded. I think it is fake/cheating by Lambo.

[Motorsportenterprise]

Originally Posted by W///

We'll have to see about that. It would be a little weird (at least to me) that their flagship 911 beat their own hyper car.

Why? The current 991.2S which at 100k is about as fast as the CGT was decade ago. Given the new tech and especially how much tires have changed I don't see it being a feat one should denounce.

Here is some more of my extended logic. Look at how fast the old GT2 RS was. 7:18 with a manual. Simply adding PDK and changing nothing else that car would likely run under ~7:06 given evidence seems to show PDK is worth 12 seconds over manual. On a car like the GT2 RS it might be worth even more given how much easier it is to drive. Now, let's add the much improved MPSC2 tires, rear wheel steering, the new 991 chassis, new PTV, more downforce, and I'm guessing some other tech may be from the 918 and I can easily see the car surpassing the 918.

Furthermore, with the current 991.1 GT3 RS running a 7:18 at less than 500 hp, a face lifted version on the way which should easily surpass that, a car with another 150 hp and 200 more torque, the GT2 RS should really be something.

You can see the Huracan they tested is not nearly close to a production car so the 7:52 is not a viable time in my mind compared to the 918.

[Motorsportenterprise]

Originally Posted by AW335TT

Passenger seat also looks like its been removed.

Door panels also look like they have been changed.

Driver seat itself also doesnt match the video posted above.

I think its safe to say, this car IS NOT what the customer will get.

Agreed. It just doesn't add up.

[Motorsportenterprise]

Originally Posted by attila

I believe the video is played at a higher frame rate than recorded. I think it is fake/cheating by Lambo.

Has anyone been able to verify that?

[attila]

Several people believe it's a fake run, altered onboard video with cuts and frame rate changes.

[TXSTYLE]

Haters Gonna Hate...

What exactly does Lamborghini have to gain if their competitors would or could confirm this is fake or false? Until I see definitive proof it was staged or false, I have no reason not to believe Lambo.

[attila]

We will see independent testing soon, I hope. The car will be released in a few days.

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by attila

We will see independent testing soon, I hope. The car will be released in a few days.

I am sure Sport Auto will do a Supertest.

They did a 7:13 will the 918 Spyder. Most recently beat their record with AMG-GTR at 7:11. I see no reason why this car can't beat the AMG-GTR, more power, lighter, active aero.

[Flying Ace]

ha! What's with all the haters? Why is this so hard to believe that this car is faster than their Aventador SV?

This is the classic problem with Lamborghinis since VW ownership as they only once was able to get Murcielago under 4000 lbs. The performance version of the baby bull always will outperform the current v-12 supercar offering due to its lower weight, shorter wheel base and drivability.

On my coin, the best value buy would be:

1. 560-4 base
2. Gen 1 Superleggera
3. 550-2 base
4. 570-4 Superleggera


I would own any Gallardo/Huracan over any V-12 Lambo for various reasons.

[AW335TT]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

Haters Gonna Hate...

What exactly does Lamborghini have to gain if their competitors would or could confirm this is fake or false? Until I see definitive proof it was staged or false, I have no reason not to believe Lambo.

so the fact that the door panels arent production, car is running a roll cage, driver seat isnt production, passenger seat is removed, the speedo jumping from 130 to 190 in 2 frames (around 4:30ish) etc.. isnt enough to at least say this isnt a production model?

I meam I get you are the one that started the thread and all and it got torn apart but cmon..

[Nkc]

I have no reason the believe that this is anywhere close to a production car to even consider it legitimate for comparison. I think this car is mighty fast but anyone with some sort of racing knowledge will know how much it takes to beat the 918's "claimed" time by 5 seconds at the ring. This all looks and sounds like a load of "BULL" shit to me especially with the suspect video. I'm just waiting for the ACR to come in and set a legitimate record.

We've just surpassed the half way mark for crowdfunding. Any amount helps.

https://www.gofundme.com/take-back-the-ring-record

[nrgy]

Regardless if this car has different tires or a roll cage, the basic foundation is there for a car capable of running 6:52! The door panels and seats are already pretty dang light on the SL series so they might be saving what, 30lbs if they removed them all together?!

I understand speculation for "Ringers", but dayum that's fast anyway you slice it.

I think that begs the question, what is a more acceptable time for all those questioning it? 7:05?

[IllSic_Design]

When I first watched the video I thought that it looked like it was sped up, albeit if only by a tiny bit. Some of those frames/shots just look too fast. Here's a youtube vid a guy did and he created an excel sheet on the huracan also.

Ooops heres the link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhpbHUPLbKY

[AW335TT]

Also, looking at this car. The front lip looks different, wheels are different, the way the car sits (rear camber) looks different, rear tires look wider.