[lsturbointeg]

I kinda laugh when I see it out there. But don't spend the time nor energy to create a post and vent about it cause there's more important shit to talk about

[irishbimmer]

I've seen a couple while cruising with my wife, and pointed them out. She was like "why would anyone do that?" The question remains and is unanswerable.

[FatRear08]

It’s to impress the less than average car enthusiast that has some automotive interest without paying too much to details such as the following...”wow! I’ve read about those M3’s and there’s one now!! That guy is lucky!! I’m jealous...” In the mean time it’s just a 2013 328i xdrive with a M badge, carbon trunk spoiler, and plasti-dipped 17 inch wheels. Fucking awesome.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

I kinda laugh when I see it out there. But don't spend the time nor energy to create a post and vent about it cause there's more important shit to talk about

Like engine oil!

[jimbobiggens]

Ego stroking. It's the same kind of people that buy those Japanese motorcycles that look and sound like a Harley. Those bikes are "Wish I had the money for a Harley" bikes. Squint just right in a certain light and it looks just like a real Harley for half the price. Same thing here.

[FatRear08]

Originally Posted by jimbobiggens

Ego stroking. It's the same kind of people that buy those Japanese motorcycles that look and sound like a Harley. Those bikes are "Wish I had the money for a Harley" bikes. Squint just right in a certain light and it looks just like a real Harley for half the price. Same thing here.

I can squint and I see the same idiocity. Sometimes even clearer haha. Seriously, I debate everyday whether I should debadge. Anyone who knows and appreciates what I’m rolling around in is going to realize what their looking at. And more importantly I know what I have. I work hard, as do all of you, to have what we have. Then some life of lies car guy buys a knock off from eBay, or maybe splurges on an OEM stick on(ooooohh)and it’s all good. Ok...I’m done. Sorry fellas.

[TNTMYM3]

It’s very strange, very strange indeed. It’s likely a different experience for everyone abusing M badges. I have one chronic “fake M badge user” a few blocks away, driving erratic when they pull away from their driveway, in an older 3 series. My opinion on some is that they are young kids who’s parents bought them an older bmw 3 series, as their first car, and due psycho social issues, “Teen Status”, slap on an M badge to give the appearance they drive an exotic European sports car...Actually not a bad move for a freshman looking to improve their image, but yea its M Fraud, punishable by Internet Defamation so keep posting fakes!

[GTF]

Saw a G05 with "XDrive 40i" on side of car (like they used to be). Must have added...it was not italic font. Actually looked good.

[s0211]

I think to myself "why??"
I also purposely park next to one if there is a spot available haha.

But I read this in another thread a couple years back, "those who don't know what the badge means, don't care; and those who do, think you're a moron. it's a lose-lose situation for you."

[ntg44]

I saw my first Audi RS6 sedan in Chicago suburbs today. Was the previous gen with a V6T badge on the side. Was very impressed how subtle it looked with a stock A6 body but silver mirror caps. Couldn't believe my eyes since the S6 and RS6 Avant had TT V8s. I felt like I saw a unicorn.

[vreihen16]

One person's annoyance is another person's opportunity! Lord knows that I made plenty of car/mortgage payments in the past selling knock-off Type-R badges to Honda drivers.....

[rlmesq]

I hate people who put phony badges on their cars almost as much as I hate people who start still another thread on the topic.

[TSM330i]

I have already seen an Audi A4 with a very large M sticker going across the bottom of the windshield.

Morons and what's the point of posing. It's like wearing fake muscles

[Delta0311]

Its kind of like loading up a bar with fakes weights and acting like you just benched 500 pounds.

In a nut shell everyone who knows their shit knows you are a poser when you pull crap like this.

Most embarrassing shit i ever saw was in my area a few months ago. Dude has halos on a Scion and M badges on trunk and both sides. He did keep the Scion emblem on though.

[rlmesq]

Originally Posted by jimbobiggens

Ego stroking. It's the same kind of people that buy those Japanese motorcycles that look and sound like a Harley. Those bikes are "Wish I had the money for a Harley" bikes.

Harley-Davidson, as a company, is actually very similar to people who have phony M badges. Both are taking an inferior vehicle and trying to turn it into a status symbol with a nameplate.


Many of the metric cruisers are much better bikes than a Harley. HD is trying to modernize its lineup, but most buyers still want an air-cooled 45 degree V-twin that's been around for a hundred years. The design places many limits on performance, and most of Harley's innovations have been work-around for the inherent inferiority of a 45 degree v-twin. They would be better off starting from the ground up... but people still want the traditional HD sound.

Look at the V-Rod. It had a water-cooled 60 degree twin that was jointly developed with Porsche and based on a superbike development project. It is a much better motor than the old Harley standard, but nobody bought it, so they stopped making it.

Same with the XR1200, which was a flat track style bike. They built a whole US Superbike racing class around it, with only a few parts required to make it race legal. Again, it died from lack of interest.

[allinon72]

Originally Posted by rlmesq

Harley-Davidson, as a company, is actually very similar to people who have phony M badges. Both are taking an inferior vehicle and trying to turn it into a status symbol with a nameplate.


Many of the metric cruisers are much better bikes than a Harley. HD is trying to modernize its lineup, but most buyers still want an air-cooled 45 degree V-twin that's been around for a hundred years. The design places many limits on performance, and most of Harley's innovations have been work-around for the inherent inferiority of a 45 degree v-twin. They would be better off starting from the ground up... but people still want the traditional HD sound.

Look at the V-Rod. It had a water-cooled 60 degree twin that was jointly developed with Porsche and based on a superbike development project. It is a much better motor than the old Harley standard, but nobody bought it, so they stopped making it.

Same with the XR1200, which was a flat track style bike. They built a whole US Superbike racing class around it, with only a few parts required to make it race legal. Again, it died from lack of interest.

You build a product to satisfy your target market, not provide them with what you think they should have. If your customers want a traditional engine, that's what you do. And that's what they did.

The V-Rod didn't sell because it was too niche and too expensive.

[rlmesq]

Originally Posted by allinon72

You build a product to satisfy your target market, not provide them with what you think they should have. If your customers want a traditional engine, that's what you do. And that's what they did.

The V-Rod didn't sell because it was too niche and too expensive.

But 45 degree Harleys are still inferior machines that are all about the nameplate. Something that loud ought to be a whole lot faster.

[Germanauto]

What's funny is that it's a lose-lose situation.

(a) People who know about cars will think you're a poser
(b) People who don't know cars will think it's just another BMW.

People who do this aren't fooling anybody besides themselves. Work hard, manage your finances wisely, then you can but a full on M division product. Until then you look like a try hard loser.

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by FatRear08

It’s to impress the less than average car enthusiast that has some automotive interest without paying too much to details such as the following...”wow! I’ve read about those M3’s and there’s one now!! That guy is lucky!! I’m jealous...” In the mean time it’s just a 2013 328i xdrive with a M badge, carbon trunk spoiler, and plasti-dipped 17 inch wheels. Fucking awesome.

It's unfortunate what happens to these cars once they become a few years old. They get bought up for cheap by the less desirables of society who can't even afford to maintain them. The cars are frequently dirty, beaten up, have trashy bubbling tints, plasti-dipped wheels, and Ebay-grade "mods."

It's sad because these cars took the blood sweat and tears of thousands of people to engineer and build in Germany. They were once beautiful and shiny at a dealership, possibly purchased by somebody who worked really hard to afford it.

I just moved to SoCal and these cars are like fleas. 3+ yr old beaten up Bimmers, Mercs, Lexuses, and Infinitis everywhere.

[allinon72]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

It's unfortunate what happens to these cars once they become a few years old. They get bought up for cheap by the less desirables of society who can't even afford to maintain them. The cars are frequently dirty, beaten up, have trashy bubbling tints, plasti-dipped wheels, and Ebay-grade "mods."

It's sad because these cars took the blood sweat and tears of thousands of people to engineer and build in Germany. They were once beautiful and shiny at a dealership, possibly purchased by somebody who worked really hard to afford it.

I just moved to SoCal and these cars are like fleas. 3+ yr old beaten up Bimmers, Mercs, Lexuses, and Infinitis everywhere.

This phenomenon has pretty much ruined modern American performance cars for me. The timeline is vastly accelerated.

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by allinon72

This phenomenon has pretty much ruined modern American performance cars for me. The timeline is vastly accelerated.

Lol since those cars are so affordable to begin with they attract some funny characters. I'd say Challenger dudes fit the stereotype pretty well, regardless of race.

[..Rush..]

"Fake M cars are for Fake people"