[ArchieV]

Originally Posted by tsbrown

I guess we shouldn’t be surprised by the glowing front brakes but I don’t recall seeing that on past M test cars. Would like to see a side-by-side video vs the F90 through those same turns because the G90 seems more wobbly trying to control all that weight.

Yes that was my first thought as well but I can’t with certainty remember the prior gen run. Also they’re still working everything out not like it’s a final product so things can change.

[Drew10]

There will be an exhaust button labeled 'Merica which will unleash the V8 sound.

[Autoaddict]

You can just feel the weight of it come through on the video.

[GabesSlowM4]

Originally Posted by IcEWoLF

That’s a heavy car. Obviously if you want a track car look at the m4 or m3, this is gonna be a peppy cruising car. Maybe some light track duties.
The design of the back might be intriguing. But the front hmmm…

Agreed! This thing is going to blow us away with stats such as 0-60, a good balance between comfort and sportiness in regards to handling, and interior creature comforts. If you want a true sports car that is MORE geared towards the track looks like its M2, M3 and M4 now. Regardless Im sure this will sell like hot cakes!

[Alan l.]

Its way more muted than i would have imagined for a M car.

[unfoundnemo]

Originally Posted by tsbrown

I guess we shouldn’t be surprised by the glowing front brakes but I don’t recall seeing that on past M test cars. Would like to see a side-by-side video vs the F90 through those same turns because the G90 seems more wobbly trying to control all that weight.

Not new... we just praise the driver for pushing it when it's a full ICE car... put a battery in there and it's just too heavy.

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1794024
https://uk.motor1.com/news/540569/bm...-spied-brakes/
https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/05/08/v...n-nurburgring/
https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1832079

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Dnshift

The road and tire noise are way more pronounced that I expected, oh well. I’m sure that some subtle exhaust mods will let her scream.

that just means very wide tires and very heavy car!

i wonder if it will be much faster than the Ioniq 5N ...

[G30M]

Originally Posted by unfoundnemo

Not new... we just praise the driver for pushing it when it's a full ICE car... put a battery in there and it's just too heavy.

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1794024
https://uk.motor1.com/news/540569/bm...-spied-brakes/
https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/05/08/v...n-nurburgring/
https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1832079

the way i see it, you either have be an *ICE or an EV. no 50-50 that's no man's land.

*a Ferrari 296/ Corvette e-Ray is still ICE as the battery is only used for torque fill/assist and you can't actually drive the car on battery alone (think of it as a big 12V battery)

[yousefnjr]

Originally Posted by g21

the way i see it, you either have be an *ICE or an EV. no 50-50 that's no man's land.

*a Ferrari 296/ Corvette e-Ray is still ICE as the battery is only used for torque fill/assist and you can't actually drive the car on battery alone (think of it as a big 12V battery)

Pretty sure you can drive an e-Ray on battery only, one of the features they touted iirc

[G30M]

Originally Posted by yousefnjr

Pretty sure you can drive an e-Ray on battery only, one of the features they touted iirc

it has a 1kwH battery (about the capacity of a 12V lead acid battery), that will be like a few miles

[White340]

Sound on to hear what? Tires screeching?

[yousefnjr]

Originally Posted by g21

it has a 1kwH battery (about the capacity of a 12V lead acid battery), that will be like a few miles

Looks like they quote “3-4 miles and up to 45 mph.” I was curious and looked up the 296, that can actually be driven electric only too, up to 16 miles. Could run errands with that target run anyone?

[tsbrown]

Originally Posted by unfoundnemo

Not new... we just praise the driver for pushing it when it's a full ICE car... put a battery in there and it's just too heavy.

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1794024
https://uk.motor1.com/news/540569/bm...-spied-brakes/
https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/05/08/v...n-nurburgring/
https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1832079

Thanks. As many Nürburgring videos as I've watched I never noticed the glowing rotors. Those M3/M4 look a lot more stable going through those turns than the wallowy G90 with about 1500lbs more weight.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by yousefnjr

Looks like they quote “3-4 miles and up to 45 mph.” I was curious and looked up the 296, that can actually be driven electric only too, up to 16 miles. Could run errands with that target run anyone?

eray = mild hybrid
296 = milder hybrid

run errands assuming battery magically full by moonlighting, no AC, crawl & don't accelerate the car, doesn't degrade like the iphone ....
best used to evade neighbours and cops and hope they don't follow u (assuming the battery is magically full and has not been used for the quarter mile drag torque fill recently, not degraded)

[G30M]

my issue with PHEV is once you empty the battery you are using 99% ICE (1% regen perhaps) and hauling dead weight which affects both acceleration and cornering (and braking)

[Remigijus]

Don't get why everyone is comparing it with M3 or M4. It was always more sporty, lighter and lower class car. M5 is sporty business class sedan (it was).

And yes all cars are growing in size and weight. Somehow I like it how it looks. And yeah looks heavy, sound minimal, but those are only test mules.

So far so good. Waiting for reveal.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by VANOS

BMW, if you are reading this, don’t eff this up! Please don’t eff this up!

recent surveys suggest that whatever they do people will still buy them

[Ladiesman217]

Is that understeer??

[DHDCF]

Why is the weight such an issue for so many? Everybody drives M5s like that?

[ResIpsaLoquitur]

I certainly hope this is in comfort mode and/or exhaust button off.

[GuyOh]

I thought you guys were trolling and joking about the tire sqeals being louder then the exhaust… hahaha you guys weren’t joking

[DavidXJ]

Originally Posted by ResIpsaLoquitur

I certainly hope this is in comfort mode and/or exhaust button off.

Alas, it's probably in Sport +..! EU noise regs and the latest version of the OPF and mufflers have probably neutralised any sort of growl on acceleration or burble on lift-off. Meanwhile, forget about crackles on overrun; keep your F90 if you want those. Also, mods will no doubt be limited on this gen—wouldn't be surprised if they locked the ECU and limited the adoptability of aftermarket slip-on exhaust systems. Maybe tuners will find workarounds but there's only so much you can redeem a hybridised V8 that was never intended to sound animated from the get-go!