[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Well I dont have F93 but you can come to CA and race against my F92 LOL

Hehe i wish i still have my f92 to race lol
The g90 jumps faster (Electric instant torque) then the f92 on a roll and pulls harder top end (from my owm experience given i owned both cars)
This is why this car is wining those races
I may be wrong

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

Hehe i wish i still have my f92 to race lol
The g90 jumps faster (Electric instant torque) then the f92 on a roll and pulls harder top end (from my owm experience given i owned both cars)
This is why this car is wining those races
I may be wrong

I have a feeling Carwow will do it for you soon… let’s wait a little bit

[iifymbro]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

If that’s the case Im wondering which ZF is installed on G90.
The highest rating AFAIK is 8HP95 rated to 950 Nm and I guess 670 HP

it's the '22 4th gen (8HP 100) which allows electric integration up to 215hp 280nm, and in the G90 it's 197hp 280nm. So they filled in the rest with the S68 up to the gearbox limit and here we are.

This is the main reason why I'm not planning on tuning mine at all, I think the gearbox is pretty maxxed out already or BMW would've juiced up the S68 more so it comfortably beat the F90 in acceleration tests.

[Scamp]

Originally Posted by iifymbro

it's the '22 4th gen (8HP 100) which allows electric integration up to 215hp 280nm, and in the G90 it's 197hp 280nm. So they filled in the rest with the S68 up to the gearbox limit and here we are.

This is the main reason why I'm not planning on tuning mine at all, I think the gearbox is pretty maxxed out already or BMW would've juiced up the S68 more so it comfortably beat the F90 in acceleration tests.

Any idea when the 3rd generation was and the ratings on that? Not hard to imagine BMW’s “plans” will change re: comp/badged M5 with a new box allowing headroom here.

[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by iifymbro

it's the '22 4th gen (8HP 100) which allows electric integration up to 215hp 280nm, and in the G90 it's 197hp 280nm. So they filled in the rest with the S68 up to the gearbox limit and here we are.

This is the main reason why I'm not planning on tuning mine at all, I think the gearbox is pretty maxxed out already or BMW would've juiced up the S68 more so it comfortably beat the F90 in acceleration tests.

Agree it is kind of maxxed out
I am srill doing jb4 map 2 max given the XM with same gearbox was handling the power with no issues and i asked terry from burger tuning and he told me map 2 e20 should be fine and should not be an issue

[iifymbro]

Originally Posted by Scamp

Any idea when the 3rd generation was and the ratings on that? Not hard to imagine BMW’s “plans” will change re: comp/badged M5 with a new box allowing headroom here.

'18, they seem to go in 4 year increments. Would be a pretty big change for a LCI/CS but I bet we'll see the 5th gen in the next X5/X6M either way

[EUPremier]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Sorry Im not going to troll but what is impressive here?
1/4 mile in 11.3 seconds?
About 0.4 seconds slower than F93 M8, 0.2 seconds slower than F90 M5 and the same time as G80 M3 xDrive…
Shouldn’t we complain about weight?
Also this is battle between new generation of M5 and old generation of competitors… and G90 is only 0.1 second faster which can be alittle jump.
Dont get me wrong. G90 IS NOT A SLOW CAR but not fast enough as we expected.

As masd79 has said above, I too can attest that it’s fantastic having collected mine on Thursday. It’s monstrously quick and I’m talking about Comfort everything and respecting run-in restrictions.
I’ve said it before and will say it again, I am the buyer that has no interest in destroying tyres nor abusing the drivetrain with launches. I do, however, love the effortless and endless shove the G9x delivers on the roll, right across the gears and rev range.
If you’re whinging about this car you’ve either not driven it, hate BMW or you’re nit-picking.

Are the keyboard warriors endlessly trolling it truly once prospective M5 buyers now disgusted and taking their money elsewhere? Or, perhaps, ‘Top Trumps’ merchants where the only metric of value is 0.02 this and .10 that?

G9x is an amazing package: It’s miles faster than what anyone needs wrapped in a delicious package of tech & versatility while being near free to drive for the daily commute.

[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by EUPremier

As masd79 has said above, I too can attest that it’s fantastic having collected mine on Thursday. It’s monstrously quick and I’m talking about Comfort everything and respecting run-in restrictions.
I’ve said it before and will say it again, I am the buyer that has no interest in destroying tyres nor abusing the drivetrain with launches. I do, however, love the effortless and endless shove the G9x delivers on the roll, right across the gears and rev range.
If you’re whinging about this car you’ve either not driven it, hate BMW or you’re nit-picking.

Are the keyboard warriors endlessly trolling it truly once prospective M5 buyers now disgusted and taking their money elsewhere? Or, perhaps, ‘Top Trumps’ merchants where the only metric of value is 0.02 this and .10 that?

G9x is an amazing package: It’s miles faster than what anyone needs wrapped in a delicious package of tech & versatility while being near free to drive for the daily commute.

I had doubts whem i ordered mine given all the hate this car got on the forum and people
Now that i am driving mine coming from an M8
This car is much better as a daily
I love speed and love to have faster car but by any means this is not slower then previous gen and it does not feel slow
People complaining and never drove one
Yes for a daily i will choose this car over the M8 any day
If i want a sports car will go get a 911 or a corvetter or a supercar
This a GT and it does that better then the M8 or any lther car for the same price or category
I loved my M8 but as a daily again i will say it this car is better
To be honest i did not expect to say that given the numbers on papers and the hate thid car has
Also i have to say it is not M8 good looking but it looks much better in person and has a lot of presence on the road and will grow on you one you see it

[EUPremier]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

In before the trollers come here dismissing everything and keep complaining about its weight.

BMW comes out with a car that beats its competition in both price and performance while also adding electric only ability to suit what 99% of what people mostly use these cars for....... sounds like a winner in my book.

Like i've said it before and I'll say it again I wouldn't even consider this car if it weren't for the electrification aspect of it. Why? Because the X5M exists. Its just a better package for most of us that needs a all in one family car. Admittedly the Touring aspect also intrigues me but mostly its because the ev only mode works for my current life style doing lots of local kids activities. Now if BMW drops the same powertrain into an X5M down the road that will be a much harder choice to decide on.

I’m amazed to hear that from a man living in the ‘States where fuel is almost free!

I envisage G9x to be a runaway success in EU but felt low US fuel costs might eliminate the PHEV advantages.

Interesting.

FWIW: Obviously, it can run for almost 70Km on electric power only. The cost of that depends what it costs you to charge it.
If your daily is less than that, fueling this could be negligible.
Obviously, there will be longer runs. I did 170miles yesterday with the EV off to promote ICE run-in.
Filled before and filled again after -same gas station. Using 95 fuel.
MPG was 22 (british gallons) or about 13L /100km.
I reckon having PHEV active would stretch that to over 28MPG on the same run or around 10L /100km.

[EUPremier]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

I had doubts whem i ordered mine given all the hate this car got on the forum and people
Now that i am driving mine coming from an M8
This car is much better as a daily
I love speed and love to have faster car but by any means this is not slower then previous gen and it does not feel slow
People complaining and never drove one
Yes for a daily i will choose this car over the M8 any day
If i want a sports car will go get a 911 or a corvetter or a supercar
This a GT and it does that better then the M8 or any lther car for the same price or category
I loved my M8 but as a daily again i will say it this car is better
To be honest i did not expect to say that given the numbers on papers and the hate thid car has
Also i have to say it is not M8 good looking but it looks much better in person and has a lot of presence on the road and will grow on you one you see it

Agree. 100%.
Enjoy & well wear!!

[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by EUPremier

Agree. 100%.
Enjoy & well wear!!

You too!

[Alan l.]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Sorry Im not going to troll but what is impressive here?
1/4 mile in 11.3 seconds?
About 0.4 seconds slower than F93 M8, 0.2 seconds slower than F90 M5 and the same time as G80 M3 xDrive…
Shouldn’t we complain about weight?
Also this is battle between new generation of M5 and old generation of competitors… and G90 is only 0.1 second faster which can be alittle jump.
Dont get me wrong. G90 IS NOT A SLOW CAR but not fast enough as we expected.

I’m talking about the race in this video. Not paper racing with other cars quoting the best times achieved with those cars. Everyone talks about comparing it to the M8 and M5CS. Last I checked those cars cost a lot more than the G90 not nearly as good as a daily driver. Not everyone going WOT at every light.

Alan

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

I’m talking about the race in this video. Not paper racing with other cars quoting the best times achieved with those cars. Everyone talks about comparing it to the M8 and M5CS. Last I checked those cars cost a lot more than the G90 not nearly as good as a daily driver. Not everyone going WOT at every light.

Alan

But this thread is not about cost or DD.
Its drag race, rolling race , quarter mile battle…

On the other hand OFCOURSE 5 series must be better DD than 8 series.
As far as price, M8 and M5CS are not costing alot. An M8 with packages a well equipped G90 has is maybe 10-15k more expensive. No need to mention you can own a 150k almost fully loaded M8 with less money than a 130k G90 due to discounts and incentives…

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

I had doubts whem i ordered mine given all the hate this car got on the forum and people
Now that i am driving mine coming from an M8
This car is much better as a daily
I love speed and love to have faster car but by any means this is not slower then previous gen and it does not feel slow
People complaining and never drove one
Yes for a daily i will choose this car over the M8 any day
If i want a sports car will go get a 911 or a corvetter or a supercar
This a GT and it does that better then the M8 or any lther car for the same price or category
I loved my M8 but as a daily again i will say it this car is better
To be honest i did not expect to say that given the numbers on papers and the hate thid car has
Also i have to say it is not M8 good looking but it looks much better in person and has a lot of presence on the road and will grow on you one you see it

You keep repeating the same thing.
It’s better DD than M8…
OFCOURSE it MUST BE. It’s 5 series and bigger and taller and heavier than M8.
G90 is not sport car at all.
What I don’t understand is if you believe “if I want a sport car , will go get 911 or corvette or supercar” then why you owned 2 M8 in 5 years? LOL
I mean I understand you love your G90 so no need to justify you trade in M8 for G90 ☺️

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by EUPremier

As masd79 has said above, I too can attest that it’s fantastic having collected mine on Thursday. It’s monstrously quick and I’m talking about Comfort everything and respecting run-in restrictions.
I’ve said it before and will say it again, I am the buyer that has no interest in destroying tyres nor abusing the drivetrain with launches. I do, however, love the effortless and endless shove the G9x delivers on the roll, right across the gears and rev range.
If you’re whinging about this car you’ve either not driven it, hate BMW or you’re nit-picking.

Are the keyboard warriors endlessly trolling it truly once prospective M5 buyers now disgusted and taking their money elsewhere? Or, perhaps, ‘Top Trumps’ merchants where the only metric of value is 0.02 this and .10 that?

G9x is an amazing package: It’s miles faster than what anyone needs wrapped in a delicious package of tech & versatility while being near free to drive for the daily commute.

Not sure if you are following or I understand your comments about trump or 0.02 or 0.1 LOL
But as a BMW FANBOY who has owned 7 BMWs since 2011 including M3/M4/M6/M8 ,If for any reason I want to trade my amazing M8 in for other BMW , I will definitely pick G8x instead of G90.
Why? Well if I check all the boxes in G8x xDrive build, I will end up a car which is more luxury ( including full leather) with more packages ( including all CF) , less expensive, much lighter, much smaller , more nimble and much better handling car and most probably as quick ( or even quicker) in 0-60 and 1/4 mile.
And I can park it everywhere
BTW this is the first time I would pick M3 over M5 over all generations…

[Alan l.]

Can’t deny the performance the M3 brings but I couldn’t get one for the following reasons.

Too small
Pig Nose
Too stiff for crappy NYC roads
Every kid wearing a hoody has one driving like an asshole.

[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

You keep repeating the same thing.
It’s better DD than M8…
OFCOURSE it MUST BE. It’s 5 series and bigger and taller and heavier than M8.
G90 is not sport car at all.
What I don’t understand is if you believe “if I want a sport car , will go get 911 or corvette or supercar” then why you owned 2 M8 in 5 years? LOL
I mean I understand you love your G90 so no need to justify you trade in M8 for G90 ☺️

I wanted a daily driver and a good looking luxury GT and M8 has all of this and did not buy it as a sports car because it is not
One of my m8 was a convertible to prove u that it was never a sports car for me rather a fun gt
I daily drive both m8 in ny winter weather with winter tires so were not treated as sports car
If i would buy the m8 again it will be in convertible form givwn it os more fun car this way

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Can’t deny the performance the M3 brings but I couldn’t get one for the following reasons.

Too small
Pig Nose
Too stiff for crappy NYC roads
Every kid wearing a hoody has one driving like an asshole.

Fair enough LOL 😂

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

I wanted a daily driver and a good looking luxury GT and M8 has all of this and did not buy it as a sports car because it is not
One of my m8 was a convertible to prove u that it was never a sports car for me rather a fun gt
I daily drive both m8 in ny winter weather with winter tires so were not treated as sports car
If i would buy the m8 again it will be in convertible form givwn it os more fun car this way

Depends on your definition of sport car.
To me M8 is sport car even kind of supercar. Anyway she is already supercar killer and the quickest BMW ever built and will stay the quickest for years

[iifymbro]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Not sure if you are following or I understand your comments about trump or 0.02 or 0.1 LOL
But as a BMW FANBOY who has owned 7 BMWs since 2011 including M3/M4/M6/M8 ,If for any reason I want to trade my amazing M8 in for other BMW , I will definitely pick G8x instead of G90.
Why? Well if I check all the boxes in G8x xDrive build, I will end up a car which is more luxury ( including full leather) with more packages ( including all CF) , less expensive, much lighter, much smaller , more nimble and much better handling car and most probably as quick ( or even quicker) in 0-60 and 1/4 mile.
And I can park it everywhere
BTW this is the first time I would pick M3 over M5 over all generations…

yeah but then you're paying 115k for a 3 series.... I was tempted by this idea for a bit.

And I'd push back against the premise that it's more luxurious just because it's got a couple more pieces of leather. Rear seats are significantly less usable/comfortable, front seats less comfortable (a synonym for luxury when it comes to seating), inferior carbon fiber (no silver thread), doesn't have any of the 7 series trickle down stuff like the whole center console/selector area, surround lightbar, steering wheel, m-drive assist professional unit, no alcantara headliner. HK vs B&W sound system, no rear wheel steer... it adds up when you dive a bit deeper then leather.

Then there's the pig nose, overall aging model with a new 3 series incoming, stiff ride you won't use most of the time

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by iifymbro

yeah but then you're paying 115k for a 3 series.... I was tempted by this idea for a bit.

Well now Im confused.
When it’s about 5 series vs 8 series people say G90 costs a lot less than 8 series so this is a big advantage but when it’s about almost the same comparision then 5 series is better than 3 series?
BTW there is a huge difference between regular 3 series ( even M340 ) and $120k M3CX or CS…

[iifymbro]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Well now Im confused.
When it’s about 5 series vs 8 series people say G90 costs a lot less than 8 series so this is a big advantage but when it’s about almost the same comparision then 5 series is better than 3 series?
BTW there is a huge difference between regular 3 series ( even M340 ) and $120k M3CX or CS…

idk who the people you referenced are but my reason for not considering the 8 is it's simply just too old, that interior is closer to 2 generations behind then to the most current one that's in the G90, a lot of which is ripped right from the current flagship 7.

And I listed a bunch of reasons why the 5 is better then the 3 you just didn't quote it lol