[solefald]

Originally Posted by Kiemyster

LOL I could not stop laughing when I read this. ohh their product lineup is set for probably the next 10 years, all they do is repackage old technology with a newer interface and maybe 10% hardware upgrades. Its wonderful how they can dictate the release of hardware to their market as they please and when they please, allowing them to control every single aspect, even depreciation of their product. Its an artificial world in apple's universe. I cant stand the way apple runs their business, walking into their stores makes me want to commit suicide. when will people realize what a fucking scam this company is.

DEATH TO APPLE.

dude, you are starting to sound like that crazy bum in front of starbucks yelling about conspiracy theories and end of the world. we get it, you don't like apple, but what you posted above is nothing but a verbal diarrhea and a stream of consciousness.... are you talking to yourself there?

[Comet]

Originally Posted by Chewy734

easy there gunner... obviously thunderbolt is ancient and old technology, as are SSD drives, touch screens, etc. I'm glad that their computers don't depreciate as much over time, and the OS is lightyears ahead of Windows for my uses.

Needless to say... I will never be able to change your perception of Apple (nor do I care to), and you will never be able to change mine. Let's leave it at that.

hey, if apple is so light years ahead of windows...
let's see it run the business world.. do they even have a server edition?
oh, and let us see it run all current gaming titles... yeah.. that's what I thought...

[KingOfJericho]

Potheads and their stoner-logic... maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

[Chewy734]

Originally Posted by Comet

hey, if apple is so light years ahead of windows...
let's see it run the business world.. do they even have a server edition?
oh, and let us see it run all current gaming titles... yeah.. that's what I thought...

You cutoff my quote. I said it's lightyears ahead of Windows for my uses.

They do have a server edition and it works great. One caveat is that most administrators (like myself) tend to use linux-based OS's (e.g., Redhat 6) on their servers than the simpler-to-use Macs (I have experience with both). Why? Because there is more hardware support since you don't have to run an Apple server, and plus we like making our own custom machines for specific applications.

Personally, I don't count gaming as a measure of superiority, for my uses. But, with the iOS platform, gaming has definitely increased significantly for Apple users, although still not to the same level as Windows (in terms of games available). Alternatively, with bootcamp you can run any Windows game on your Mac, and it's comparable in performance to a higher-end Windows computer.

[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by Comet

hey, if apple is so light years ahead of windows...
let's see it run the business world.. do they even have a server edition?
oh, and let us see it run all current gaming titles... yeah.. that's what I thought...

They're one of the most profitable companies in the world without having to even touch that market. Most markets that are are in, they dominate.

[ragingclue]

Hopefully his successors don't reek of douchebaggery like he did/does. He's a genius for sure, and the crux of Apple's resurgence and dominance, but he's just such a dick.

I'm sure he's ingrained his very spirit into those who will replace him. Apple will be fine. My 2nd Gen Nano took a shit yesterday and I'll have to replace it; I guess I can let myself buy another iPod now that he's no longer CEO.

[Comet]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

They're one of the most profitable companies in the world without having to even touch that market. Most markets that are are in, they dominate.

except for the PC market

they are great at tablets and decent at phones.. I have an iPad 2, an Ipod and an iPhone.. I give credit where credit is due.. but their desktops are terrible...

and like you said, you even have to bootcamp windows for it to be a complete machine.. why not just use windows?
most people's industries use windows, except for hipster graphic designers...

[KingOfJericho]

I have an iMac and a MacBook Pro and have never missed anything about my old PCs. I have also never used a dual boot on either machine. If anything, the ease of use with all of my other devices is fantastic as they were designed to talk to one another from the onset. For my home needs, I find a PC to be garbagio. 4+ years with my iMac and it still runs like the day I unpacked it. I could NEVER say that about any PC I've owned.

[MadDog]

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[jpsum]

Originally Posted by MadDog

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good one

[Inspired]

Originally Posted by Comet

except for the PC market

they are great at tablets and decent at phones.. I have an iPad 2, an Ipod and an iPhone.. I give credit where credit is due.. but their desktops are terrible...

and like you said, you even have to bootcamp windows for it to be a complete machine.. why not just use windows?
most people's industries use windows, except for hipster graphic designers...

I have to agree with that. The iMac are just garbage and this is coming from someone with the whole Apple arsenal minus the iMac.

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

I have an iMac and a MacBook Pro and have never missed anything about my old PCs. I have also never used a dual boot on either machine. If anything, the ease of use with all of my other devices is fantastic as they were designed to talk to one another from the onset. For my home needs, I find a PC to be garbagio. 4+ years with my iMac and it still runs like the day I unpacked it. I could NEVER say that about any PC I've owned.

I have a 5 years old HP desktop and it is still running like a champ.

[KingOfJericho]

I download copious amounts of music and would get horrendous viruses on my PCs, even with Norton antivirus (waste of money, IMHO). I do the same, if not more, downloading with my Macs and have yet to run into an issue. They just work.

[solefald]

https://plus.google.com/u/0/10711748...ts/gcSStkKxXTw

TL;DR - Google's letters are all kinds of fucked up

One Sunday morning, January 6th, 2008 I was attending religious services when my cell phone vibrated. As discreetly as possible, I checked the phone and noticed that my phone said "Caller ID unknown". I choose to ignore.

After services, as I was walking to my car with my family, I checked my cell phone messages. The message left was from Steve Jobs. "Vic, can you call me at home? I have something urgent to discuss" it said.

Before I even reached my car, I called Steve Jobs back. I was responsible for all mobile applications at Google, and in that role, had regular dealings with Steve. It was one of the perks of the job.

"Hey Steve - this is Vic", I said. "I'm sorry I didn't answer your call earlier. I was in religious services, and the caller ID said unknown, so I didn't pick up".

Steve laughed. He said, "Vic, unless the Caller ID said 'GOD', you should never pick up during services".

I laughed nervously. After all, while it was customary for Steve to call during the week upset about something, it was unusual for him to call me on Sunday and ask me to call his home. I wondered what was so important?

"So Vic, we have an urgent issue, one that I need addressed right away. I've already assigned someone from my team to help you, and I hope you can fix this tomorrow" said Steve.

"I've been looking at the Google logo on the iPhone and I'm not happy with the icon. The second O in Google doesn't have the right yellow gradient. It's just wrong and I'm going to have Greg fix it tomorrow. Is that okay with you?"

Of course this was okay with me. A few minutes later on that Sunday I received an email from Steve with the subject "Icon Ambulance". The email directed me to work with Greg Christie to fix the icon.

Since I was 11 years old and fell in love with an Apple II, I have dozens of stories to tell about Apple products. They have been a part of my life for decades. Even when I worked for 15 years for Bill Gates at Microsoft, I had a huge admiration for Steve and what Apple had produced.

But in the end, when I think about leadership, passion and attention to detail, I think back to the call I received from Steve Jobs on a Sunday morning in January. It was a lesson I'll never forget. CEOs should care about details. Even shades of yellow. On a Sunday.

To one of the greatest leaders I've ever met, my prayers and hopes are with you Steve.

-Vic

[Inspired]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

I download copious amounts of music and would get horrendous viruses on my PCs, even with Norton antivirus (waste of money, IMHO). I do the same, if not more, downloading with my Macs and have yet to run into an issue. They just work.

I use AVG and Malwarebyte for years on my PC and have no problem at all. Sounds more like user errors..

[Kiemyster]

Originally Posted by Chewy734

easy there gunner... obviously thunderbolt is ancient and old technology, as are SSD drives, touch screens, etc. I'm glad that their computers don't depreciate as much over time, and the OS is lightyears ahead of Windows for my uses.

Needless to say... I will never be able to change your perception of Apple (nor do I care to), and you will never be able to change mine. Let's leave it at that.

Ive got a response for you but i left it on my other laptop. im currently on the wife's macbook pro. im so ashamed of myself. if it were not for bimmerpost, i would not be compelled to check the internetz and would not have to be on this piece of shit.

Originally Posted by solefald

dude, you are starting to sound like that crazy bum in front of starbucks yelling about conspiracy theories and end of the world. we get it, you don't like apple, but what you posted above is nothing but a verbal diarrhea and a stream of consciousness.... are you talking to yourself there?

I dont expect any of the apple guys here to even read my posts. at this point everyone here knows when any thread like this comes up to just skip my post if they know the timing already.

[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by twinturbo335

I use AVG and Malwarebyte for years on my PC and have no problem at all. Sounds more like user errors..

No problems at all on my work PC but all I use that for is spreadsheets and Bloomberg. MS has a clear advantage there but for MY everyday computer, my Mac just works better. I'm not saying that having never used a PC, I'm saying that after a decade and a half of PC experience and 4 years of Mac experience. It's my informed opinion from my personal experience. I fail to see how doing the same thing on both computers with extremely different results could possibly be user error but thanks for the jab.

[BayMoWe335]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

I download copious amounts of music and would get horrendous viruses on my PCs, even with Norton antivirus (waste of money, IMHO). I do the same, if not more, downloading with my Macs and have yet to run into an issue. They just work.

Mostly because hackers spend no time developing viruses because no one uses them.

[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by BayMoWe335

Mostly because hackers spend no time developing viruses because no one uses them.

Sounds like you're acknowledging the problem with PCs.

[jpsum]

Originally Posted by BayMoWe335

Mostly because hackers spend no time developing viruses because no one uses them.

+1

This bothers me. People credits Apple for the lack of virus on the MAC. That's just plain silly. The fact that there are less viruses out there for the MAC is because most viruses are written for the PC, not because Apple writes better code.

[jpsum]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

Sounds like you're acknowledging the problem with PCs.

Just stay away from porn sites and don't click on any "shocking videos" from your friends on your FB news feed, you will do just fine with the PC.

[solefald]

Originally Posted by jpsum

+1

This bothers me. People credits Apple for the lack of virus on the MAC. That's just plain silly. The fact that there are less viruses out there for the MAC is because most viruses are written for the PC, not because Apple writes better code.

Bullshit.

There are no viruses on Apple computers because they are running UNIX (OSX is FreeBSD based), not because people don't write or try to write viruses for it.

The way UNIX works is completely different. You can not have a "virus" in UNIX/Linux, but you can have a "trojan" and even in that case, the privilege escalation on UNIX is completely different from windows, and you have to deliberately type in root password to do *any* damage.

So yes, you can credit Apple in some way for choosing to do this radical step and completely rewriting the OS. I've been using Macs since 1996. OS 7, OS 8 and when OS 9 came out i swore that I will never ever touch another Mac ever again. This is how much of a piece of garbage it was. OS X changed EVERYTHING.

I've been saying this for years, and i will say it again. Microsoft needs to start parallel development of a new, UNIX based OS. Continue to support existing line for 10-15 years, while slowly phasing it out and pushing the new OS. Software vendors will slowly adopt and write software for the new OS.
Microsoft won't even have to do much, just write a nice interface because all of the footwork has been done.

[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by jpsum

Just stay away from porn sites and don't click on any "shocking videos" from your friends on your FB news feed, you will do just fine with the PC.

So basically don't use my computer? HEYOOOOOOOOOOO!