[supra93]

1st live look at Turbulence Gray.

[WestRace]

Originally Posted by NickyC

If I close my eyes and wish hard enough, the M4 is the modern day Supra to me.

I wouldn't say this is a compliment.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by supra93

1st live look at Turbulence Gray.

I hate grey, but that's probably the best color I've seen on the Supra.

In other news, what's the square sedan at the end of the shots? Are they still making a Cressida?

[IllSic_Design]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

In other news, what's the square sedan at the end of the shots? Are they still making a Cressida?

The Century, Toyota's Rolls Royce

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by WestRace

I wouldn't say this is a compliment.

Why? MKIV Turbo is legendary and no car I've owned since besides the M4 reminded me of it.

[QUiKSR20]

Oh boy, Saw this earlier : 2020 Toyota Supra getting a CX Racing 2JZ engine swap kit
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/02/26/...gine-swap-kit/

They already have them in BRZ/FRS's I guess why not...

[Mach550]

Originally Posted by QUiKSR20

Oh boy, Saw this earlier : 2020 Toyota Supra getting a CX Racing 2JZ engine swap kit
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/02/26/...gine-swap-kit/

They already have them in BRZ/FRS's I guess why not...

the non-working boost gauge really sets that interior off

[supra93]

[Gangplank]

There seems to be an abundance of shill going on.

[supra93]

https://newsroom.toyota.eu/toyota-gr-supra-gt4-concept/

Developed for potential motorsport role

World debut of the new GR Supra GT4 Concept at the 2019 Geneva Motor Show

• Designed and engineered to comply with international GT4 competition regulations
• The GR Supra GT4 Concept explores how the new Supra could be used as the basis for an affordable and competitive car for privateer racers
• Toyota presents the world debut of the new GR Supra GT4 Concept at the 2019 Geneva Motor Show on 5 March. It is a design and engineering study that explores how the newly launched fifth generation of the legendary Supra sports car might be developed as a competitive machine for international GT4 racing, accessible and affordable for privateer racers and small teams in line with Toyota’s worldwide support for grass-roots motorsport.

The road-going Toyota GR Supra has essential qualities that make it an attractive proposition for GT4 racing, with its perfectly balanced chassis, two-seater cabin, highly rigid and light weight body, rear-wheel drive and very low centre of gravity. The combination of the short wheelbase and wide track gives it an ideal 1.55 “golden ratio” for excellent stability and agility, which are valuable assets in a series where the regulations use a balance of performance calculation (adjusting weight according to engine power) to ensure even competition across the field.

The concept model, developed by TOYOTA GAZOO Racing, is instantly recognisable as a Supra and maintains the road car’s low, muscular shape, but with increased length and lowered height. A specially-designed front diffuser and rear wing have been added to the GR Supra GT4 Concept to improve airflow around the chassis, reducing drag and optimising downforce. Both items are constructed using composites made from natural fibres such as hemp and flax, replacing the traditional carbon fibre in order to reduce the impact on the environment. Original alloy wheels have been replaced by five-hole OZ 11 x 18in racing wheels.

The MacPherson strut front and multilink rear suspension design is carried over, but with the addition of competition springs, shock absorbers and anti-roll bars. The high-power deceleration required for racing is provided by high-performance Brembo brakes.

Under the bonnet, the GR Supra GT4 Concept retains the 3.0-litre straight-six-cylinder petrol engine with single twin scroll turbocharger, coupled to an automatic transmission. Performance is increased with help from a motorsport-grade ECU and bespoke wiring looms. There are also motorsport-specification drive shafts and limited slip differential.

The stripped-out cabin is fitted with a high-strength roll cage and FIA-standard fire extinguisher and OMP racing seat. The concept car is also equipped with a motorsport-specific fuel tank and a fast refuelling system.

GT4 is one of the world’s fastest-growing motorsports categories, with national and regional competitions in Europe, North America, Asia and Oceania. Established since 2006 and sanctioned by the FIA, it is designed to be a value-for-money series for both professional and amateur racers, and a potential stepping-stone to GT3 competition.

TOYOTA GAZOO Racing will evaluate the interest shown by potential customers in the Supra GT4 Concept before deciding on future development of the vehicle.

Toyota GR Supra GT4 Concept technical specifications

Chassis

Length: 4,460mm
Width: 1,855mm
Height: 1,250mm
Weight: Not disclosed at this time
Construction: Steel body with high-strength roll cage
Front diffuser: Natural fibre composite
Rear wing: Natural fibre composite
Fuel tank: Motorsport specification with fast refuelling system
Driver’s seat: FIA-standard OMP racing seat

Engine & transmission

Type: In-line six-cylinder, single twin-scroll turbocharger
Displacement: 2,998 cm3
Max. power: Not disclosed at this time
Max. torque: Not disclosed at this time
Transmission: Automatic, rear-wheel drive
Differential: Motorsport-specification limited-slip differential
Driveshafts: Motorsport specification

Suspension, steering & brakes

Front suspension: MacPherson strut
Rear suspension: Multilink
Coil springs, shock absorbers, anti-roll bars: Motorsport specification
Steering: Electro-hydraulic, rack and pinion
Brakes: Brembo racing brakes
Wheels: OZ five-hole 11 x 18in

[hybris]

Stray thought: Perhaps BMW and Toyota intentionally leaked the necessary information to crack the B48/B58 ECU since Toyota insisted that the Supra had to be accessible to aftermarket tuners, and we actually have Toyota and this car to thank for the fact that we can remap/flash our engines?

[supra93]

[supra93]

"Although we receive requests from customers for an open version or a targa top, the reason why we decided on the coupe is because we can achieve the highest rigidity and lightest weight. But if we receive enough requests for a targa version then we will raise (the idea),” Tada-san said.

https://carbuzz.com/news/toyota-will...if-you-want-it

[Shiza]

The car is not even out yet and Pandem has designed a kit. I'm not a fan of the wing. I think it would look better with just the stock trunk, but the rest looks cool.

https://tiremeetsroad.com/2019/03/06...-toyota-supra/

[WestRace]

Originally Posted by supra93

Something I have not observed before but I notice that the front brake calipers are in front of the rotors? OK, it's a bit nit picking, but wouldn't that add more weight to the front-rear weight balance?

And it seems like a simple thing to change.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by WestRace

Something I have not observed before but I notice that the front brake calipers are in front of the rotors? OK, it's a bit nit picking, but wouldn't that add more weight to the front-rear weight balance?

And it seems like a simple thing to change.

That's just a bad rendering. The image also shows carbon ceramics.

The Supra/Z4 has the preferred rwd setup with the front calipers at the back, steering arm at the front.

Toyota/Subaru messed this up on the GT86, one of a couple of reasons the steering on that car isn't great.

https://cdn77.motor.es/fotos-noticia...01953815_2.jpg

[supra93]

https://newsroom.toyota.eu/toyota-gr-supra-1/

• Every Toyota GR Supra intended for delivery in 2019 has now been reserved across major European sports car markets
• High demand for the Toyota GR Supra has led to a waiting list that runs into the thousands
• Reservations will shortly re-open for 2020 deliveries
• Following the successful launch of country-specific reservation platforms in October 2018 and ahead of its European premiere at the Geneva Motor Show, every Toyota GR Supra intended for delivery in 2019 has now been reserved across major European sports car markets.

After a 17-year absence from the market and due to an overwhelming appetite from enthusiasts for a sports car that delivers a pure driving experience, high demand for the Toyota GR Supra has led to a waiting list that runs into the thousands, ensuring reservations will shortly re-open for 2020 deliveries.

To celebrate the Supra’s legendary heritage and introduction of the fifth-generation chassis code number, an exclusive Toyota GR Supra A90 Edition model will be built. Finished in dramatic, matt Storm Grey, equipped with 19” matt black alloy wheels and featuring a stunning red leather driver-centric cockpit, all 90 examples of the A90 Edition have been reserved.

Finally, to recognise the enthusiasm they’ve shown for the return of the Supra name, the 900 Toyota GR Supra owners in Europe during the first year of the car’s launch will enjoy a number of special benefits. As members of the Supra 900 and in the lead-up to the delivery of their car from summer 2019, they will be given access to exclusive experience programmes and a number of money-can’t-buy rewards.

Chief Engineer of the Toyota GR Supra, Tetsuya Tada, commented: “I’d like to thank the first 900 customers for their reservations, securing their priority order access to the new Toyota GR Supra ahead of its official European premiere at 2019 Geneva Motor Show. As Chief Engineer, I cannot wait until the moment they get behind the wheel, I believe that we will reignite the passion and put the fun back into driving for as many people as possible.”

[MassNerd]

Originally Posted by hybris

Stray thought: Perhaps BMW and Toyota intentionally leaked the necessary information to crack the B48/B58 ECU since Toyota insisted that the Supra had to be accessible to aftermarket tuners, and we actually have Toyota and this car to thank for the fact that we can remap/flash our engines?

That was my thought when the Supra was announced. It greatly increases the aftermarket for the B58 which is great for us B58 owners!

[supra93]

Official Colors are now on Toyota's USA Website.

https://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehicles/gr-supra/

If you click view source, here are the color codes.

Absolute Zero White = (A96). Aka Mineral White Metallic
Nocturnal Black = (475). Aka Black Sapphire Metallic
Renaissance Red 2.0 = (A61). Aka Crimson Red
Tungsten Silver = (A83). Aka Glacier Silver Metallic
Turbulence Gray = (C2Y). Aka Bluestone Metallic
Nitro Yellow = (B21). Aka Atacama Yellow
Downshift Blue = (C10). Aka Mediterranean Blue
Phantom Matte Gray = (C3A). Not found in BMW paint code. I believe Tada san did say this was color was unique just to the Supra.

[jv004]

It's actually not bad on looks, I think most of the hate is because of the BMW engine. Think that was a mistake on toyota's end, a big middle finger to their fanbase and sports car crowd. If they would of developed a nice engine since after 1998 then the reveal would of been much better received and more powerful. This feels more like a cash grab attempt.

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by jv004

It's actually not bad on looks, I think most of the hate is because of the BMW engine. Think that was a mistake on toyota's end, a big middle finger to their fanbase and sports car crowd. If they would of developed a nice engine since after 1998 then the reveal would of been much better received and more powerful. This feels more like a cash grab attempt.

McLaren put a BMW engine in the F1 and nobody complained about a middle finger to the McLaren fan base or complained about power. This is a weak argument against the new Supra.



It's like all the people saying that BMW lost it's way with the F8x because it didn't have a bespoke engine. Yet the F8x has been the most successful M car to date. I think the new Supra will prove to be the same.

[Red Bread]

It's not like the Macca engine came out of a 750i (or any other car, for that matter) so that's a pretty weak argument.

If the Supra had an S series motor, the other half of your argument would work too, even though I do agree that the S55 lost something, even if it sold well. Camry's sell well, doesn't mean it's a car anyone lusts after.

To me, the fact that this is a BMW, built in Germany, with seemingly little to no mechanical involvement from Toyota, is the disappointment. Just a few major components without BMW part numbers on them would change my opinion greatly about this car.

Bring on the 450+ hp hybrid version and then I'll at least casually arch my eyebrows.