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      12-20-2021, 09:21 PM   #45
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Wonder if that speeds up US allocations?
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      12-20-2021, 09:40 PM   #46
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Looks like a Hyundai Elantra. No thanks. Hard pass.

I don’t know how people can drive ugly.
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So strange. I haven't even heard of any new changes here.
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      12-21-2021, 09:42 AM   #48
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So strange. I haven't even heard of any new changes here.
Yeah I haven't heard of this. Kind of strange that this isn't driven by emissions requirements or anything like that.
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      12-21-2021, 10:17 AM   #49
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I also think it's for supply/allocation reasons and that it will be back for MY2023. They do sell quite well up here...
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I just love the engine. The only redeeming quality about these nose heavy pigs is that engine.
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Ugh that grill, are they Audi their minds??
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Ugh that grill, are they Audi their minds??
I know we're in the other brands forum, but since we're still on the BMW forum, this response loses a lot of traction. I mean, Audi is bad, but…
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I know we're in the other brands forum, but since we're still on the BMW forum, this response loses a lot of traction. I mean, Audi is bad, but…
This grill is far, far larger than anything BMW is doing. It pretty well covers the entire front end. I know it's cool on this forum to hate BMW's latest grilles but let's be a little realistic here. If you hate the BMW grilles, this is a total abomination.
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I saw the new S3 in person and that rear bumper plastic shit looks like hell. I don't mind the front bumper and the new proportions look pretty decent. I have a '19 RS3 and love the car but I hate the dealer. Can't get my nav fixed without getting my shit flagged.

Part of me is still tempted to grab a new TTRS and set up a all-out half mile car.
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      12-21-2021, 04:41 PM   #55
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This grill is far, far larger than anything BMW is doing. It pretty well covers the entire front end. I know it's cool on this forum to hate BMW's latest grilles but let's be a little realistic here. If you hate the BMW grilles, this is a total abomination.
For me it's not the size of the new grills on the M3/4 it's the shape. Everyone is doing large grills, it's just whether it's horrible or not. I just picked up a 2022 RS5 and it has a big grill, but it looks pretty decent (in my opinion anyways).
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This grill is far, far larger than anything BMW is doing. It pretty well covers the entire front end. I know it's cool on this forum to hate BMW's latest grilles but let's be a little realistic here. If you hate the BMW grilles, this is a total abomination.
Ehhhhh I dunno. BMW new grill is just awful but goes the impression they tried and failed. Audi grill looks like they just mailed it in and didn’t care. Not sure which is worse LOL.
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For me it's not the size of the new grills on the M3/4 it's the shape. Everyone is doing large grills, it's just whether it's horrible or not. I just picked up a 2022 RS5 and it has a big grill, but it looks pretty decent (in my opinion anyways).
Looks good, nice car. I prefer the grill on your car over the '22 RS3 grill, but for me either look better than just about anything BMW is putting out and it's not even close. The RS3 front would probably look better if the surround were body-colored instead of black.
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      12-22-2021, 12:26 AM   #58
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For me it's not the size of the new grills on the M3/4 it's the shape. Everyone is doing large grills, it's just whether it's horrible or not. I just picked up a 2022 RS5 and it has a big grill, but it looks pretty decent (in my opinion anyways).
It's because what BMW is doing doesn't "fit". Exceptionally large vertical intakes/grille just makes no sense, the entire hood and front of the car is a more horizontal structure. Trying to fit in vertical kidneys the height of the distance of the bumper to top of the facia structure is a square peg in a round hole.

What Audi is doing on the other hand is gorgeous.
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In any case, both are extremely large . I do believe that car specs, engine/performance and confort , have to be considered before exterior look.
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In any case, both are extremely large . I do believe that car specs, engine/performance and confort , have to be considered before exterior look.
Ummm if you are spending close to or over a $100k I should hope you really like the way it looks lol
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Ummm if you are spending close to or over a $100k I should hope you really like the way it looks lol
Especially on a vanity/emotional type purchase. This isn't a commercial truck we're talking about.
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For me it's not the size of the new grills on the M3/4 it's the shape. Everyone is doing large grills, it's just whether it's horrible or not. I just picked up a 2022 RS5 and it has a big grill, but it looks pretty decent (in my opinion anyways).
We are discussing the RS3. It is not a good looking car from the front end. Would you have bought the RS5 if the entire front end was grille and black plastic?
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We are discussing the RS3. It is not a good looking car from the front end. Would you have bought the RS5 if the entire front end was grille and black plastic?
I find the new RS3 good looking, tbh. Reviews also say it’s very fun to drive.
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We are discussing the RS3. It is not a good looking car from the front end. Would you have bought the RS5 if the entire front end was grille and black plastic?
I find the new RS3 good looking, tbh. Reviews also say it’s very fun to drive.
Drove a friends with some mods and it's a bad little car.
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I find the new RS3 good looking, tbh. Reviews also say it’s very fun to drive.
I also like the looks of it very much, new M3/4 makes me want to gouge my eyes out.
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We are discussing the RS3. It is not a good looking car from the front end. Would you have bought the RS5 if the entire front end was grille and black plastic?
I don't love the all black "mask" on the RS3 but I still like it better than the huge kidney grills on the M3/4. So yes I would still get an RS5 if it had the all black front.
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