[iifymbro]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

Agree 100%
I trun it off to improve audio quality

the speaker grill on the bottom of the front doors looks like it has a small opening to whatever is behind it, doesn't strike me as being part of the B&W sound system but could possibly be for the fake noise. I don't have the G90 yet so can't go digging but I wonder if they separated it.

This is the illuminated grill BMW deemed us not worthy to have but shows the speaker placement, assuming it's still under there on the G90

[TEGRITY]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

The inside sound is great because it is all fake nice sounds
Go to the outside is silent and no sound at all lol
I was expecting it to be bad but not that bad
No crackles no rumbles and not loud outside shocking to be honest
The XM sounds amazing compared to the M5 and this does not make any sense

So true. I was at the Australian launch in a closed acoustic room. I was literally standing next to the tail pipes. Heard 90% engine/induction noise and 10% exhaust puff, for lack of better words. Regulations have become mundane.

nordmanmg congrats on your G90 and MBB and Rossa Corsa M5s in your garage is truly mega.

You mentioned the B&W sound is better than F90. I don’t think so. Leaving aside the technical spec differences and the cheap plastic speaker covers they have introduced in the G90, they sound quite underwhelming. Of course, it might depend the music we listen to, etc.

On seats, I found the G90 rear seats were more inclined to better lock you in place and more comfortable than the F90. What do you think? Front seats, F90 feels better to me. To look and feel in person, the details, design, leather and stitching was better in the F90 in almost all interior aspects. Maybe it’s just me, I found the G90 merino leather questionable and the the neck plastic with the M5 badge was too much plastic with a hole to replace a classy embedded badge on the headrest. Again, all this depends on one’s physique and how the seats fit. For me, the F90 seats are up there right after the F8x Comp LCI seats, which had minimal adjustment options but just seemed to fit most people with excellent support, natural back ventilation for hot days and brilliant seating/ driving position.

P.S. quite jealous of your garage. Enjoying good health mate!

[masd79]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

The inside sound is great because it is all fake nice sounds
Go to the outside is silent and no sound at all lol
I was expecting it to be bad but not that bad
No crackles no rumbles and not loud outside shocking to be honest
The XM sounds amazing compared to the M5 and this does not make any sense

Yep the Xm is super loud

[brianeck]

Originally Posted by iifymbro

the speaker grill on the bottom of the front doors looks like it has a small opening to whatever is behind it, doesn't strike me as being part of the B&W sound system but could possibly be for the fake noise. I don't have the G90 yet so can't go digging but I wonder if they separated it.

This is the illuminated grill BMW deemed us not worthy to have but shows the speaker placement, assuming it's still under there on the G90

They have never separated it before and the car components are more and more modular/interchangeable than ever. There is no reason to believe they started separating it now. I'm not going to claim I've dug any further just stating its extremely unlikely.

[iifymbro]

Originally Posted by brianeck

They have never separated it before and the car components are more and more modular/interchangeable than ever. There is no reason to believe they started separating it now. I'm not going to claim I've dug any further just stating its extremely unlikely.

well when you look at the speaker list there's 4 continuum cone mids (silver mesh, 2 in rear doors and I assume 2 more in front doors), 3 other mid-range ones (2 are visible in the rear over/on the trunk area), 2 subwoofer under the seats and that leaves 7 tweeter, 2 visible in front doors.

So 1 missing mid which I would think is center front of dash firing upward, and a bunch of tweeters. So maybe they are down in the bottom of the front doors but that seems a weird place to put them, I'm thinking they're stashed in next to the mids. Wish there was a map of the speaker layout like audi/porsche do

[jnotrom711]

Originally Posted by nordmanmg

I thought I’d give it a try, and compare it to F90. Since I have both now.
Got this Marina Bay Blue one with Red Interior.
I do like, but I will probably not keep it for long.
It drives great, feels quite close to a BMW XM, but handles way better then XM.
Feels faster than F90 even though it is not.
Seats are noticeably comfier than F90 seats. But not by a lot. I can’t find the button to adjust knee support bolster, maybe it doesn’t have that ����*♂️
Also disappointed that it doesn’t have adjustable seat back.
B&W sounds noticeably better in G90 then same one in F90.
If you ever had F10 and loved Bang & Olufsen in it, then you probably felt disappointed about B&W in F90,
But I really enjoying music in G90 after numb sound quality in F90.
Would be nice to have massaging option in front seats.
No soft close feels like a miss out. Hopefully they will add that next year.
No active outside handles in rear door makes it feel cheap.
Whatever they used to upholster the seats feels rough, i can’t say that it feels cheap, but you can definitely tell it’s not real leather,
My F90 has full leather and it even smells fancy.
G90 doesn’t have that obvious scent in it, my G80 even smelled more BMW-ish then G90

Interesting.

This review spells good and bad news for me unfortunately. Some things you mention are welcomed and leave me hopeful, somethings left me saying "that was my exact experience with an XM".

I had an XM for a week, and hated it. I thought it drove like shit. Not the handling, handling was fine for an SUV, I would never expect it to handle as well as an M5, but for me it was everything else I wasnt impressed with.

I thought it sounded cheap and tinn-y compared to my F90C. Exhaust sounded horrible inside and out in my opinion, reminded me of a 4 cylinder.

The BW in the XM in my opinion was no where near as good as my BW in my F90C. But I also didnt turn off the M sound in the XM, so that could be part of it I suppose.

Overall I left the XM telling myself, "if the XM is even remotely similar characteristics as the G90, I wont be buying a G90".

Even still after owning my 2019 F90C with quite a few miles on it, I still get in it and feel like it feels more solid, and well built than the XM. The XM certainly had cool features and things about it, but no chance I would ever buy one.

I rented it while my wife's G63 AMG was getting some warranty work done, and wanted to try one out, and see what the new G platform could be like, and have to say it felt no where near as nice as the G63, or my F90.

Albeit, I havent driven a G90 yet, and I will before I make a final judgment, but im hoping some of the misses on the G90 are addressed with the 2026 model, or an introduction of a higher trim level.

Last thing I will ADD! I had a hard time finding the knee support adjustment button also. But on the XM it was a button with in/on top of another button. Dont recall what one, but I remember hitting it and saying "ohhh there it is", I dont know if the M5 has it the same as XM or not, but XM was hard to locate also.

I guess time will tell!

[Remigijus]

Originally Posted by iifymbro

the speaker grill on the bottom of the front doors looks like it has a small opening to whatever is behind it, doesn't strike me as being part of the B&W sound system but could possibly be for the fake noise. I don't have the G90 yet so can't go digging but I wonder if they separated it.

This is the illuminated grill BMW deemed us not worthy to have but shows the speaker placement, assuming it's still under there on the G90

This AliExpress part looks pretty nice! The OEM cloth cover, on the other hand, feels like a bit of a cost-cutting move, which is a shame. Also the rear door card and speaker covers look much better than the front ones IMO

[nordmanmg]

Originally Posted by jnotrom711

Interesting.

This review spells good and bad news for me unfortunately. Some things you mention are welcomed and leave me hopeful, somethings left me saying "that was my exact experience with an XM".

I had an XM for a week, and hated it. I thought it drove like shit. Not the handling, handling was fine for an SUV, I would never expect it to handle as well as an M5, but for me it was everything else I wasnt impressed with.

I thought it sounded cheap and tinn-y compared to my F90C. Exhaust sounded horrible inside and out in my opinion, reminded me of a 4 cylinder.

The BW in the XM in my opinion was no where near as good as my BW in my F90C. But I also didnt turn off the M sound in the XM, so that could be part of it I suppose.

Overall I left the XM telling myself, "if the XM is even remotely similar characteristics as the G90, I wont be buying a G90".

Even still after owning my 2019 F90C with quite a few miles on it, I still get in it and feel like it feels more solid, and well built than the XM. The XM certainly had cool features and things about it, but no chance I would ever buy one.

I rented it while my wife's G63 AMG was getting some warranty work done, and wanted to try one out, and see what the new G platform could be like, and have to say it felt no where near as nice as the G63, or my F90.

Albeit, I havent driven a G90 yet, and I will before I make a final judgment, but im hoping some of the misses on the G90 are addressed with the 2026 model, or an introduction of a higher trim level.

Last thing I will ADD! I had a hard time finding the knee support adjustment button also. But on the XM it was a button with in/on top of another button. Dont recall what one, but I remember hitting it and saying "ohhh there it is", I dont know if the M5 has it the same as XM or not, but XM was hard to locate also.

I guess time will tell!

Reading all the different feedback from people who already drove G90, you can definitely tell, different people have different tastes.
See, I feel like B&W sounds way better in XM then in my F90
And B&W definitely sounds better than in F90. But again, you might feel different about it once you get into one.
Knee bolster adjustment is in the iDrive menu.
Fastest way to get to it is to hit the seat icon on the door, and then touch bolster on the seat diagram which pops in the main screen, and move it forward or backward using arrows on the screen

[masd79]

Originally Posted by nordmanmg

Reading all the different feedback from people who already drove G90, you can definitely tell, different people have different tastes.
See, I feel like B&W sounds way better in XM then in my F90
And B&W definitely sounds better than in F90. But again, you might feel different about it once you get into one.
Knee bolster adjustment is in the iDrive menu.
Fastest way to get to it is to hit the seat icon on the door, and then touch bolster on the seat diagram which pops in the main screen, and move it forward or backward using arrows on the screen

Three weeks in, I have changed my opinion. I think the bw in g90 is awesome. Normally I would not max out on bass and treble, turns out on this system you have and then you in the game. It’s amazing and not obnoxious, just perfect

[nordmanmg]

I'm curious if BMW had this mid grill covers with speakers planned, and then just downgraded front door panels. Because rear doors looks way better then front ones

[masd79]

Originally Posted by nordmanmg

I'm curious if BMW had this mid grill covers with speakers planned, and then just downgraded front door panels. Because rear doors looks way better then front ones

Dunno but it’s a great mod to do 😋

[7957007]

Originally Posted by nordmanmg

I'm curious if BMW had this mid grill covers with speakers planned, and then just downgraded front door panels. Because rear doors looks way better then front ones

Does anyone know where to get these speaker covers. The ones that come in the G90 from factory are horrible.

[Tallest]

Superman spec is always my secrete favourite.

Your comments on sound and speakers makes me wonder, that while in past generations BMW had made money on those options, today they need to actually make speakers good as speakers play such an important part in "piping" sound into the cabin, and creates the emotion that sells the car.

Ill be honest, I like how new M5 looks. Its a tank. ITs not so stupidly aggressive like the M3, that looks very busy and nervous. The M5 is like a sumo wrestler today, and has somehow nicer personality.

The previous gen M5 looks sharp, has that E34 aura about it in a way if you wanna place it within the M5s of old. It will remain a classic.

[masd79]

Originally Posted by 7957007

Does anyone know where to get these speaker covers. The ones that come in the G90 from factory are horrible.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/32568...2usa4itemAdapt

[Remigijus]

And just the front covers: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/10050...Cquery_from%3A

[phase3]

f90>>

[EUPremier]

Originally Posted by nordmanmg

I'm curious if BMW had this mid grill covers with speakers planned, and then just downgraded front door panels. Because rear doors looks way better then front ones

What am I missing here? Looks like same setup just with different ambient light cooour setting?

[Remigijus]

Originally Posted by EUPremier

What am I missing here? Looks like same setup just with different ambient light cooour setting?

In original there's no lower speaker cover with ambient lighting, just a cloth cover.

[nordmanmg]

Originally Posted by EUPremier

What am I missing here? Looks like same setup just with different ambient light cooour setting?

Here is how it looks.



Here is the panel with that additional speaker below the handle

[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by nordmanmg

Here is how it looks.

Attachment 3634015

Here is the panel with that additional speaker below the handle

Attachment 3634016

Are tgese covers plug and play or needs wiring and coding

[iifymbro]

Originally Posted by nordmanmg

Here is how it looks.

Attachment 3634015

Here is the panel with that additional speaker below the handle

Attachment 3634016

any chance you can shine a flashlight in that lower grill opening and see what's in there, if it's not aluminum tweeters it's gotta be the source of engine noise cause the rest of the b&w speakers are accounted for elsewhere.

[hdahman]

G90 vs f90 , What about leg room on back seat. As well as suspension?