[BMW_Belgier]

Originally Posted by rauldan2005

Hello all,
I live in Romania but here you can pass the speed limit for about 6mph (10kmh)without getting a ticket, only a verbal warning.
They say that 6mph(10kmh) is the calibration limit of the cameras.
My concern are the tickets for seatbelts wearing in town, I mean WTF - how ugly can a car accident can be at 35mph ????
You can fall on the sidewalk and get greater injuries.

You're joking right

A 35 mph crash can kill you...

[chromisdesigns]

No problem, we all have BMWs, so we can drive a few indicated MPH over the posted limit with impunity. Because our speedos all read 3-5 mph fast!

[thecadman99]

I must admit that when I'm going "a bit over" I'm concentrating and driving safe.

When I get in trouble is fiddling with the Radio, Redline, or Razr.... we should all be mindful of distracted driving- that is REALLY dangerous. Not "worried about a ticket" dangerous, I meant "worried about dying or killing someone" dangerous...

Or maybe since I turned 40 I can't multitask as well...

[rauldan2005]

Sorry, I think I've made a little mistake. Was considering 1 mile = 1.3 km (dont know why -ouch-).
Anyway it was about 31 mph, come on, the only way it can kill you if the other car is running 60-70 mph and coming straight to you.
And one more thing, the police stops and tickets you for seatbelts on a route where it takes 30 min to make 5 km. Its a joke they need to get money in state treasury.
The law is the law

[PTinVT]

Follow-up story from same source.

http://www.wcax.com/story/18945063/s...n-goes-too-far

"Tuesday, Gov. Peter Shumlin called the proposed level of enforcement idiotic. "

[SaMaster14]

Originally Posted by dmatre

I know that it's illegal to kill just one person .... But I think there should be a 5-person cushion....

I know stealing just one dollar is illegal ... But I think there should be a 5-dollar cushion...

You know the law (if not, look around - it's posted on those rectangular white signs with black writing), live it or accept the penalty - not too difficult to understand.

And our system is so amazing at enforcing the law so perfectly, right?

Plus, the other laws you mentioned are completely different. You aren't hurting anyone by going 5mph over the speed limit. If you hit someone else at 30mph instead of 25mph I doubt the outcome would be much different. Same with 35 vs. 40....

I do know the law, but I'll take my chances. I've never gotten a ticket, and with our amazing legal system, I could probably get away with 40 in a 35 even if I was pulled over.

[antennahead]

Originally Posted by Philz BMW

You are the type that probably wouldn't mind a monitoring device inside your car, and cameras in and around your home. After all, if you aren't doing anything wrong why worry?

Pfft.

[Kolyan2k]

Originally Posted by PTinVT

Follow-up story from same source.

http://www.wcax.com/story/18945063/s...n-goes-too-far

"Tuesday, Gov. Peter Shumlin called the proposed level of enforcement idiotic. "

He is correct, who ever made this proposal is a complete idiot

ps. usually in MA going 10-15 mph over will not get you a ticket, 20 will for sure. < on hway that is

I even had a cop pull me over doing 25-30 mph over posted speed limit, and i told him that speed limit here is ridiculous.....he agreed and let me go.

[TroyDeJ]

Originally Posted by Legitimate

Being that BMW speedometers are incorrect by somewhere around 5%, you can sue either BMW or some level of government for not mandating a standardized speedometer test

BMW makes thier speedometer off by that percentage for a reason and the reason Is so it reads FASTER then you actually going so you dont exceed the speed limit by a few miles per hour. They rather you go a few MPH slower than the speed limit than a few MPH over the speed limit to avoid the liability of someone like you sueing them for it. Soooo nice thought but no

[MikeyV]

Originally Posted by CamelBiscuit

The other 93% is caused by women drivers.

Or Asians! Asian women drivers are the worst!

[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by Bighorns

^^This!^^ It's also illegal to be in the left lane unless you are passing slower traffic to the right, but I never see this enforced. Some States will actively enforce this because idiots who feel entitled to 'park' in the left lane incite road rage. Unfortunately, many of our speed limits are artificially low because we need to keep the general population safe, since not everyone who has a license has the proper skills to operate a vehicle safely at the speeds that they have been designed to operate.

No, it's not. It may be illegal on the Autobahn but most states have no regulations specifying lanes for passing.

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by SaMaster14

Plus, the other laws you mentioned are completely different. You aren't hurting anyone by going 5mph over the speed limit. If you hit someone else at 30mph instead of 25mph I doubt the outcome would be much different. Same with 35 vs. 40....

Energy is proportional to the square of velocity so actually the amount of energy that must be dissipated in a 30 MPH collision is almost one and a half times that of a collision at 25 MPH. I don't think people normally understand this, and instead assume a linear relationship between velocity and damage (energy). This is why braking distances grow exponentially as you get faster as well.

[Kolyan2k]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

No, it's not. It may be illegal on the Autobahn but most states have no regulations specifying lanes for passing.

Many states do, but they dont enforce this. I think whole New England has this law

Its not enforced because it will never work since most drives are too stupid to begin with

surprisingly today on the way to work left lane was free and drivers switched after passing. state should advertise this law more often, they do but not enough.

[CamelBiscuit]

Originally Posted by SaMaster14

And our system is so amazing at enforcing the law so perfectly, right?

Plus, the other laws you mentioned are completely different. You aren't hurting anyone by going 5mph over the speed limit. If you hit someone else at 30mph instead of 25mph I doubt the outcome would be much different. Same with 35 vs. 40....

I do know the law, but I'll take my chances. I've never gotten a ticket, and with our amazing legal system, I could probably get away with 40 in a 35 even if I was pulled over.

Ok let's look at it like this. Would you be mad if someone hit your son or daughter with their car while doing 5mph over the speed limit in a residential area? What if the child died then how would you feel? I know you are like 21 so just think about it. I will be the first to tell you that speed limits in the states are too slow but they are there for a reason. Put your self in police officers shoes. Nobody's perfect.

[ptack]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

No, it's not. It may be illegal on the Autobahn but most states have no regulations specifying lanes for passing.

Wrong - most states do. In NJ, for example, you can only use the left lane on multilane highway for passing. It's not enforced as strictly as speeding, but I know people who have been ticketed for it and I wish they would issue more.

[SaMaster14]

Originally Posted by CamelBiscuit

Ok let's look at it like this. Would you be mad if someone hit your son or daughter with their car while doing 5mph over the speed limit in a residential area? What if the child died then how would you feel? I know you are like 21 so just think about it. I will be the first to tell you that speed limits in the states are too slow but they are there for a reason. Put your self in police officers shoes. Nobody's perfect.

To be honest. If someone was doing 30 mph in a residential area and hit my kid, I don't think I would be any more upset than if they were doing 25mph regardless of the outcome. Both of those speeds are deadly, but in normal circumstances you have just as much control over your car at 30 mph as you do at 25 mph.

I always tell people to slow down and I am one to have a lot of regard for the law. My street is pretty close to a major street (Beverly Glen) and I see people doing 40 mph down my block all the time. Ive even seen 2 crossover SUVs racing late at night (and it's a street with one lane for each direction.... So one guy was in the lane with on coming traffic). I also live near UCLA, so I see dumbass teenage drivers all the time.

I know that nobody is perfect, but I think it would be completely ridiculous to for a police officer to give someone a ticket for going 26/27/28 mph in a 25 when they are just cruising and not really accelerating.

I'm 19 btw, haha.

[SaMaster14]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

Energy is proportional to the square of velocity so actually the amount of energy that must be dissipated in a 30 MPH collision is almost one and a half times that of a collision at 25 MPH. I don't think people normally understand this, and instead assume a linear relationship between velocity and damage (energy). This is why braking distances grow exponentially as you get faster as well.

I actually do understand the physics behind impacts and speed. But having driven at both speeds and also having been hit by someone running a red light going 45+ mph I can safely say that I would be personally ok with people cruising at 30 mph around my street.

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by SaMaster14

I actually do understand the physics behind impacts and speed. But having driven at both speeds and also having been hit by someone running a red light going 45+ mph I can safely say that I would be personally ok with people cruising at 30 mph around my street.

Doesn't change the fact there's a lot more energy to dissipate and a lot longer of a distance to stop.

But if you would like the speed limit on your street changed because your infinite wisdom says it's ok, by all means change it.

[IrishCoffee]

Originally Posted by Legitimate

But what gives them the right of thinking all the owners are stupid? You never know, someone might use a old E90 30 years from now for a stunt and they need to go exactly a certain speed with a low margin of error and something like this may lead to their death.

So that's why I didn't go back to the future when the speedo said I hit 88 mph...

[SaMaster14]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

Doesn't change the fact there's a lot more energy to dissipate and a lot longer of a distance to stop.

But if you would like the speed limit on your street changed because your infinite wisdom says it's ok, by all means change it.

Im not saying that. Just that, as it is normally, have something like a 5 mph cushion. Again, the only time ive know of something to get pulled over for doing like 27 in a 25 was my mom, about 10 years ago, and she got out of the ticket...

[NewYearsBoy]

My Dad always said... "9 and ur mine!"

[NewYearsBoy]

Originally Posted by Kolyan2k

Many states do, but they dont enforce this. I think whole New England has this law

Its not enforced because it will never work since most drives are too stupid to begin with

surprisingly today on the way to work left lane was free and drivers switched after passing. state should advertise this law more often, they do but not enough.

In FL you can get a ticket if you are in the right lane and do not move over for a driver merging onto the highway..