[Mingwan]

^frs owners be like shouldve come from the factory that way

[supra93]

Another dyno vid w/ 376hp.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Mingwan

^frs owners be like shouldve come from the factory that way

I had a BRZ for 3 years before my 135, it's literally the dumbest owner group I've ever witnessed in my life.

[supra93]

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/202...d-to-tis.1915/

http://techinfo.toyota.com/

• Full engine model is B58B30M.
• Power is listed as 335@5000 to 6500, which is interesting. Flat torque curves are common these days, but a flat power curve almost always means it is being limited by the ECU and/or being under stated.
• Doesn't require premium fuel (87 octane AKI or higher).
• "Toyota Genuine Motor Oil SN 0W-20 C5 for GR Supra" engine oil is specified, 0W30 is also acceptable.
• BMW Frostox HT-12 engine coolant is specified.
• Crank and rods are forged of course.
• Steering wheel is 373 mm
• Automatic Gearbox Oil ATF 3+ transmission oil is specified.
• Exterior mirrors are heated, auto-dumming and have power folding.
• Canada/US curb weight is listed at 3397 lbs.
• Mexico curb weight is listed at 3461 lbs.
• Fuel tank capacity is 52L
• Canada/US model code: model code: DB43L-ZRLA, Grade: RZ.
• Mexico model code: DB41L-ZRLW, Grade: RZ.
• Front brakes: 40/44mm piston size, 348x36mm 2-piece floating rotors
• Rear brakes: 44mm piston size, 345x24mm 2-piece floating rotors
• DOT4 brake fluid is specified.
• Rear differential is a BMW 215LWS model with 3.15:1 final drive.
• BMW Hypoid Axle Oil G4 is specified for the differential.
• Heated power seats with a memory system on the driver's seat.
• A spare tire is not provided, only a repair kit.
• Front wheel alignment: toe-in: 0.27° +/- 0.20°, camber: -1.63° +/- 0.50° w/o(AVS), -1.75° +/- 0.50° w(AVS), caster: 7.58° +/- 0.50°, steering axis inclination: 17.35°. Toe is adjustable, camber is adjusted by replacing the steering knuckle.
• Rear wheel alignment: toe-in: 0.23° +/- 0.20°, camber: -1.83° +/- 0.42° w/o(AVS), -2.00° +/- 0.42° w(AVS). Toe is adjustable.

[Savedamanualse90]

Originally Posted by supra93

Another dyno vid w/ 376hp.

Supra is pushing out 375hp on a dyno, way above listed HP.

[SteveinArizona]

Originally Posted by Savedamanualse90

Supra is pushing out 375hp on a dyno, way above listed HP.

BMW is well known for sandbagging its HP numbers and several recent efforts at dynoing BMWs produced results were the HP at the wheels was close to the HP at the crank.

Since this is a BMW engine, that is what is likely happening.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

[QUOTE=supra93;24990493]https://www.supramkv.com/threads/202...d-to-tis.1915/

http://techinfo.toyota.com/

Not having to run premium fuel is a unforeseen plus!

Not having a heated seat on the passenger side is going to be an issue. Hoping a heated passenger seat can be optioned in.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

Not having a heated seat on the passenger side is going to be an issue. Hoping a heated passenger seat can be optioned in.

I read that as heated power seats(driver & pass), with the memory only on the driver. Which would be a common setup.

[Biginboca]

Those alignment specs are way more aggressive than I’ve seen for any bmw cars.

-1.75 front camber
-2.00 rear camber

E92m3 front camber was -1.2, the M2 -1.3, and the M4 -1.3.

[supra93]

Carwow: Toyota Supra v BMW Z4 - DRAG RACE, ROLLING RACE & BRAKE TEST

https://g29.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1631315

[OhioRiderAaron]

Originally Posted by Biginboca

Those alignment specs are way more aggressive than I’ve seen for any bmw cars.

-1.75 front camber
-2.00 rear camber

E92m3 front camber was -1.2, the M2 -1.3, and the M4 -1.3.

No wonder it's getting such praise for handling! Every lil bit helps to wake these cars up.

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

I'm kind of excited for this car.

[heavyD^2]

Latest C&D with a production car road test;

0-60 mph: 3.8 sec
1/4 mile: 12.3 sec @ 113 mph
Skidpad: 1.07 g

Performance/dollar this car has to be the new king as a 12 second 1/4 mile is very impressive at this price range.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by SteveinArizona

BMW is well known for sandbagging its HP numbers and several recent efforts at dynoing BMWs produced results were the HP at the wheels was close to the HP at the crank.

Since this is a BMW engine, that is what is likely happening.

This is nothing new. BMW has advertised x horsepower and most of the time, they have been found to put out x horsepower at the wheels. The brilliance of this is then it's entered into a competition with other cars, all of which are advertised as having similar to "x horsepower", except being measured at the wheels, the BMW always has a hp/tq advantage and takes the performance figures.

[clee1982]

Originally Posted by supra93

Carwow: Toyota Supra v BMW Z4 - DRAG RACE, ROLLING RACE & BRAKE TEST

https://g29.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1631315

waiting for a similar test for the US version!

[heavyD^2]

Originally Posted by clee1982

waiting for a similar test for the US version!

Are there any expected differences outside of particulate filters?

[IllSic_Design]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

Are there any expected differences outside of particulate filters?

Euro Z4 has 50 less horses than US Z4

[DPelletier]

North American Z4 M40i dyno; 373.5 HP at the rear wheels https://g29.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1621271

Dave

[Red Bread]

Has anyone dyno-ed an EU one? I'd be surprised if it's really down that much in power.

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Has anyone dyno-ed an EU one? I'd be surprised if it's really down that much in power.

Dynos within this thread are EU spec and are showing powers similar to the US spec Z4 M40i. If memory serves me correct, around 360whp and 415wtq.

[DPelletier]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Has anyone dyno-ed an EU one? I'd be surprised if it's really down that much in power.

Not that I know of but the results of CarWow's drag test implies there is a significant difference (see post 2075) between the euro Z4 and the Supra.

The flip side is dyno tests here show the north american version of the Z4 to have a 34hp rwhp advantage vs. the Supra meaning the drag race test between the Supra and NA version of the M40i wouldn't have the same outcome.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...no-horsepower/

Dave

[supra93]

All of the following VINs shows 285kw or 382hp.

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/vin...uncovered.1930

• WZ1DB0C09LW020384
• WZ1DB0C09LW020385
• WZ1DB0C09LW020386
• WZ1DB0C09LW020387
• WZ1DB0C09LW020388
• WZ1DB0C09LW020389
• WZ1DB0C09LW020390
• WZ1DB0C09LW020391
• WZ1DB0C09LW020392
• WZ1DB0C09LW020393
• WZ1DB0C09LW020394
• WZ1DB0C09LW020395