[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Their new styling is really nice but i dunno. I had an Accent 7 years ago and it was pretty shite and when our X3 went in for a recall we were given a Santa Fe and man, loaded but smelt like cheap chinese luggage, felt tinny, drove horribly .. just felt really cheap.

Santa Fe's 7 years ago were awful. Today they are not. 2014 + Sant Fe is way more roomy than an X3.

[Alfisti]

This was 2017. The Accent was 2013.

[See5]

Never expected the BMW badge whoring to reach 15 year old base E90's but I guess that's where we are right now.

[mecheng77]

Originally Posted by New2Roundel

None of this actually addresses why you'd be embarrassed to drive a Kia. Most cars, including the current crop of basic 3-series vehicles are boring and uninspiring to drive. And yet, I suspect you'd still hold your head high behind the wheel of a horribly dull F30 328.

Originally Posted by New2Roundel

None of this actually addresses why you'd be embarrassed to drive a Kia. Most cars, including the current crop of basic 3-series vehicles are boring and uninspiring to drive. And yet, I suspect you'd still hold your head high behind the wheel of a horribly dull F30 328.

What can I say I like dull ultimate driving machines.

[See5]

Originally Posted by mecheng77

What can I say I like dull ultimate driving machines.

You're kidding right? I think you should try again because trying to pump up BMW of all brands in terms of engine reliability is insanity.

[KevinGS]

Right now, I'm driving around in my friend's Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid. As a daily, it's actually kind of nice, super efficient, and has a functional, high-content interior. Yes, it's slow, the trans is clunky at times and it's certainly going to blend in....but if you need a daily driver and want some of the latest technology, it's solid. And as a used car in a few years, for roughly half price, I think it would be a helluva deal.

Kia makes the Niro, and it's quite similar, and sits higher, for those that like that.

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

This was 2017. The Accent was 2013.

I own a 2018 Santa Fe, and it it undeniably way more spacious on the inside than an X3. I happen to think the interior on it is decent as well.

The crate for my 85lbs Am Staff fits folded in the back of of the Santa Fe, but not in the bimmer, and rear leg and head room in the Hyundai is also bigger.

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by mecheng77

What can I say I like dull ultimate driving machines.

Forum member's brand new BMW M2C blowing a motor 550 miles into European Delivery:

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1648678

And there is a whole another thread on spun crank hub of the S55 in M2Cs as well with a few forum members here needing a new motor because of it.

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1492290

BMW quality is not any better than Hyundai/Kia. And the warranty with BMW is shorter.

Oh, and here is an M3 owner describing his situation and needing a motor rebuild at 7k miles. There is "superior" bmw quality for you.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

I own a 2018 Santa Fe, and it it undeniably way more spacious on the inside than an X3. I happen to think the interior on it is decent as well.

The crate for my 85lbs Am Staff fits folded in the back of of the Santa Fe, but not in the bimmer, and rear leg and head room in the Hyundai is also bigger.

I never mentioned size so not sure why you keep quoting m eon it.

The Santa Fe changed in 2018, i am referencing the third generation, yours is 4th gen.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

I never mentioned size so not sure why you keep quoting m eon it.

The Santa Fe changed in 2018, i am referencing the third generation, yours is 4th gen.

Should we change the title to why was Kia popular three years ago?

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

I never mentioned size so not sure why you keep quoting m eon it.

The Santa Fe changed in 2018, i am referencing the third generation, yours is 4th gen.

Oh, my bad. I misread "tinny" in your post above. Sorry about that.

[frbq]

Originally Posted by Encanto

Lemon the sucker and move on.

Not that easy, first the dealer don't want to accept that there is a problem.
Second, the factory said that they are pending of the situation and that the dealer is their representation, but had not answer if they are gonna accept that there is a failure about driving dynamics. I'm still hoping that they would honor the warranty and not other measures would be needed.
Technically they are still telling me that all the cars behave the same, that they drive suboptional. Maybe it's true and the problem is uncommon but happens to everyone and people don't notice it, I suppose that would be worst.
Today the car is 2 weeks at the workshop, plus one week a month ago before. They said that they are still fixing the voice assistance (2 weeks), and after inquiring about dynamics they tell me nothing.
Long ago an aunt had to change a BMW sedan by the dealer because the motor get overheated, but I sincerely though that does time passed. Other weird thinks happens like gas tank backfire at starting in other model, that they never fixed it; or commons really conditioning repairs like Valeos A/C evaporator damage, event an E39 rust problem.
Is hard to belive that it is only one car problem. Sadly no Kia would drive like a BMW, but that is not an excuse to be unreliable.

Sorry for the catharsis, the theme is Kia brand, but I see the people with Kia happy and satisfy, and see my adverse situation, and I thing that this is a bad joke.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

Oh, my bad. I misread "tinny" in your post above. Sorry about that.

LOL easily done!

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Should we change the title to why was Kia popular three years ago?

Kia/Hyundai have not just suddenly become popular, growth has been solid and ongoing for a while though Hyundai has struggled lately with Kia making better inroads.

There's a theme of quality being up there that just have not seen in my experience, that is all. I will also add that Korean cars tend to be equipped with crappy tyres from the factory.

[GenXer]

Good value, good selection, attractive vehicle, excellent warranty, inexpensive maintenance, easy enticing financing.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Kia/Hyundai have not just suddenly become popular, growth has been solid and ongoing for a while though Hyundai has struggled lately with Kia making better inroads.

There's a theme of quality being up there that just have not seen in my experience, that is all. I will also add that Korean cars tend to be equipped with crappy tyres from the factory.

Man, most cars come with awful tires. I've learned to check inventory, sometimes the same car has wildly better tires as a build option.

[jmhumr]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Kia/Hyundai have not just suddenly become popular, growth has been solid and ongoing for a while though Hyundai has struggled lately with Kia making better inroads.

There's a theme of quality being up there that just have not seen in my experience, that is all. I will also add that Korean cars tend to be equipped with crappy tyres from the factory.

The fall of Nissan and Honda also have something to do with it; Hyundai and Kia have essentially replaced those brands in every way. Nissan, in particular, has an embarrassingly stale product lineup and their best-selling car (Rogue) is junk that sells purely because it is cheap. Honda has been resting on their now-dated reputation for reliability and have faced issues by cutting corners and putting out very uninspired products.

[The Choosey begger]

I've never heard a girl brag about her bf dtiving a kia. Lol

[zx10guy]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

Forum member's brand new BMW M2C blowing a motor 550 miles into European Delivery:

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1648678

And there is a whole another thread on spun crank hub of the S55 in M2Cs as well with a few forum members here needing a new motor because of it.

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1492290

BMW quality is not any better than Hyundai/Kia. And the warranty with BMW is shorter.

Oh, and here is an M3 owner describing his situation and needing a motor rebuild at 7k miles. There is "superior" bmw quality for you.

All I have to say is what the hell am I doing wrong that a college kid has a M4 and a truck; not to mention additional money to mod said M4.

[Savageenterprise]

Originally Posted by zx10guy

All I have to say is what the hell am I doing wrong that a college kid has a M4 and a truck; not to mention additional money to mod said M4.

Maybe hes a well accomplished youtuber while in school. Some of those youtube people make serious bank.

Or it's mommy and daddy money. Who knows lol

[Mason Hatcher]

Originally Posted by Savageenterprise

Maybe hes a well accomplished youtuber while in school. Some of those youtube people make serious bank.

Or it's mommy and daddy money. Who knows lol

Crazy money

There is a guy called Chevy Dude who sells Chevrolets. He does one YouTube video each week. He showed his viewers how advertising, views and YouTube payments work. He made right at $40k just from YT. And he does not put in near the effort some of the YTers do. Many make easy 6 figures with YT.

It is not a hobby for them, it is serious business.