[ahaxton]

Originally Posted by picus

Some of the Japanese auto hate in here is downright ignorant. I've obviously chosen to go with BMW this time around, but some of you need to get over your pompous BMW-owning selves. Seriously.

It isn't ignorant, it's smarts

Both Nissan and Toyota need to seperate their luxuy cars from their regular cars. They are too alike and I think it's all just for trying to get a piece of the German automakers pie.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by ahaxton

Infiniti sucks. Seriously I can't compare at all any Japanese cars to German BMW engineering. Even worse being Infiniti is a glorified Nissan. Same with Lexus. No thank you!

Yeah, and those glorified Nissans (Infiniti G35s) and glorified Toyotas (Lexus IS350s) can totally waste you in your 328i. They may not drive as well or handle as well as your BMW but they've got you on speed and power. They're decent cars and the competition is good...for everyone.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by ahaxton

It isn't ignorant, it's smarts

Both Nissan and Toyota need to seperate their luxuy cars from their regular cars. They are too alike and I think it's all just for trying to get a piece of the German automakers pie.

It's called "free market economics" and "competition." It's all good.

[ahaxton]

Originally Posted by sflgator

It's called "free market economics" and "competition." It's all good.

Yeah they can create brands, that's fine. I still don't think their price tags are worth it.

Just like with clothing, a name brand is at a premium. I think Infiniti and Lexus needs to throw in a lot more before they can charge large amounts.

IMHO

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by picus

Some of the Japanese auto hate in here is downright ignorant. I've obviously chosen to go with BMW this time around, but some of you need to get over your pompous BMW-owning selves. Seriously.

I agree. I chose the BMW 335i over the Infiniti G35 this time (even though I've driven 2 Infiniti's -- a G35 and an FX35 and loved both of them) for many reasons, but Infiniti and Lexus (which I've also driven 3 Lexus in the past) also make great cars, and anyone who doesn't think so should just get over themselves already. The competition is great for us, the consumers!

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by ahaxton

Yeah they can create brands, that's fine. I still don't think their price tags are worth it.

Just like with clothing, a name brand is at a premium. I think Infiniti and Lexus needs to throw in a lot more before they can charge large amounts.

IMHO

Aren't you being a bit hypocritical? I mean many ppl feel that with BMW, you're paying more for the name (status); maybe these competitive cars are the ones that are priced fairly?

[Fraggy]

My wifes 05 G35 sedan is an awesome car. Is it a BMW?, No. But its really good just the same and worth every penny. The auto tranny sucks though, even when your shifting it, it disengages the second you lay off the gas, not very sporting at all. If I was getting one, Id get a MT and that problem would be solved.

I found the interior of the 07 to be beautiful. A little too much hard plastic on the lower part of the doors, but other than that, I see nothing wrong with it all.

[ahaxton]

Originally Posted by sflgator

Aren't you being a bit hypocritical? I mean many ppl feel that with BMW, you're paying more for the name (status); maybe these competitive cars are the ones that are priced fairly?

Of course we are paying for the name, but with the name comes many more years of perfected engineering. I don't think Toyota or Nissan should be charging as much as they do for what they sell. I guess I am just a bit old fashioned and like to go with the older brands.

[John 070]

Originally Posted by picus

Some of the Japanese auto hate in here is downright ignorant. I've obviously chosen to go with BMW this time around, but some of you need to get over your pompous BMW-owning selves. Seriously.

I guess I wont be a BMW owner myself for another 2 wks., but you use such harsh language I hope I don't become like that down the road.

I have a 98 Maxima and short of the sevice engine lamp repair and a 60k service, it's had zero repairs after being in service 9 years and 135k. Very reliable car and served well, easlily worth the 22k and change I paid for it new. But nobody has to justify why they chose to buy a BMW over any car. That's a personal decision, often related to finances, like it or not.

[ward]

Originally Posted by John 070

I guess I wont be a BMW owner myself for another 2 wks., but you use such harsh language I hope I don't become like that down the road.

I give it a month and you'll be flipping people off, using the horn like crazy and cutting people off just like the rest of us

[younghov85]

Originally Posted by sflgator

Your analogy of an Infiniti G35 being like a Mitsu Evo/Sti makes no sense; those cars are for speed/racing only; there's no luxury in them. Infiniti (which makes cars that range in price from $35k - $60k), like BMW tries to combine sport and luxury for a nice balance in a higher-end car. I wouldn't exactly say a $28k Evo/Sti, or an SRT4 would ever be considered a high-end luxury sports car; just a no-frills fast-as-heck sports car.

Actually, if you really think about it, it boils down to this...

1. Infiniti is more like BMW with the priorities (in order) being 1. Sport and 2. Luxury
2. Lexus is more like Mercedes with the priorities (in order) being 1. Luxury and 2. Sport

+1

[kapoo]

Originally Posted by toolfan

Also, the G35 is going to be a big deal for about a year, then it will fade away, just like before and BMW will still be there as a topic of conversation.

Agreed

[Jason]

Keep the insults and arguments off this forum please.

[Richwm]

Originally Posted by toolfan

The problem with the G35 is the fact that it turns to cheap plastic, fast!! After about 30,000 miles, they start to rattle, the leather feels like plastic and the plastic inside seems to wear really fast. Now, if you drive a BMW that is like a 1999 with 115,000 miles on it, it feels better than a 30,000 mile infiniti. The problem is with these japanese cars are everyone is a lot of people go into them because they save $3000, but it the long run they are unhappy and they are all coming back to BMW. I know this because I hear my clients complain everyday about their japanese cars.

I would have to agree with you on this on before my E90 I had a 2001 330i with 110k miles and a the wife had 2003 G35 sedan with 35 k miles We ditched the G and my wife took the 01 330 and she let me get my 06 330i. The G was a rattle box and terible gas milage and the worst seats I have ever owned. The e46 was still as good as it was when it was new, but now she wants a 530 station wagon i had one for a loaner and she loved it.

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by Railgunner

Interesting thread...

For me in the end it came down to styling. I dreamed of having a new BMW 3series for years. Now that I can finally afford one, BMW goes and completely changes the look of the car.

I just can't deal with the new Bangle'd 3 series.

The new 2007 G35 actually reminds me more of the older boxy BMW 3 series body style than the new BMW 3 series does.

From what I can see in the pic, this car has nothing to do with older Bimmer styling. he pipes are cool, the wheels look good, they stole the kink thing, the rear lights are worse than on the e90 (especially the brake light sticking out) and that metal thing on top of the trunk???? What the hell is that??? I assume the front is nicer...but as I recall looks just like an M35/45?

[MarkA]

Would you rather have a Datsun or a BMW.. I mean really? Put it this way for only $9000 more you could have a BMW!

[MarkA]

Originally Posted by Dante

Infinity is going to enter the german market in 2007 (We only have Nissan so far).

I predict they will sell about 3 G35 in 2007 and back out of the german market in 2009 latest.

Noone here buys japanese cars over € 30,000. (except a few 350z ).

I've seen a lot of Mitsubishi Lancer EVOs in Germany... (or maybe I keep seeing the same few )

[ALPINE6SPD]

Originally Posted by bronco

Will see what will Nissan do with the 2008 G35 Coupe MT...I hope they put SC or Turbo in it...Ohhhh boy, if they do that....

they arent so dont look forward to it. The turbos are for the skyline. The new coupe will have the same engine as the g35 sedan.

[Dante]

Originally Posted by MarkA

I've seen a lot of Mitsubishi Lancer EVOs in Germany... (or maybe I keep seeing the same few )

Really? I haven't seen a single one.