Head AMG Chassis Engineer Joins BMW M to Lead Chassis and Powertrain Development

Enter Faster · 02-05-2013, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AbuArije5

Smh you bmw fanboys better start thinking out the box this can help bmw brand to open up to new ideas and improvements within the company i doubt he would make a big difference anyway so i doesn't even matter

BMW "fanboys" you realize you're on a BMW specific forum, right?

afengran · 02-05-2013, 03:56 AM

oh, shall i expect a M black?haha

Asbjorn · 02-05-2013, 04:53 AM

I think it is much more interesting were the previous M Head of Chassis and Powertrain Development went? Or maybe there hasn't been any since they finished the development of the M3 V8?

conradb · 02-05-2013, 05:44 AM

Spy sappin mah sentry!

mkoesel · 02-05-2013, 06:06 AM

Perhaps the next generation (post F8x) M3/M4 will share an engine with the larger M cars.

US///M3 · 02-05-2013, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by awhk

AMG are behind in terms of powertrain and chasis... so...

That used to be true with previous M5's, the F10 M5 usually loses in that category.
And What you hear behind the wheel of an AMG car is real engine sound, no need for fake engine sound.

Who? · 02-05-2013, 06:49 AM

as a huge fan of AMG (and also M, actually, im a huge fan of alot of things) I welcome this news. What concerns me is if ///M mimics AMG philosophies.

To me:
AMG- True German Hotrods
///M- Track Machines

two different animals imo. hopefully, M stays true to their nature, while perhaps adding a 'black' series of cars as per rumours if you know what I mean.

RingMeister01 · 02-05-2013, 07:42 AM

Good get by BMW. Meyer did a great job at MB, hopefully he'll have the freedom to work his magic.

docjay · 02-05-2013, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by davem3fan

It doesn't seem to me that BMW M will benefit from AMG philosophy/influence...

+1

H17M3 · 02-05-2013, 08:50 AM

I think this is a good move. BMW needs some extreme performance machines that can rival the SLS and the R8 as mentioned. Although cars like the c63 AMG are better at smoking tire than going around corners like an M3, I think BMW needs some cars that are just bonkers to drive..something that has that ///M magic, but not as "refined".

strati1 · 02-05-2013, 10:15 AM

Nice! now make them heavier lol

AbuArije5 · 02-05-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Enter Faster

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Originally Posted by AbuArije5

Smh you bmw fanboys better start thinking out the box this can help bmw brand to open up to new ideas and improvements within the company i doubt he would make a big difference anyway so i doesn't even matter

BMW "fanboys" you realize you're on a BMW specific forum, right?

Yes sir but doesnt mean everyone is a closed minded fanboy. People are thinking of the bigger picture

AbuArije5 · 02-05-2013, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Phatcat

Mercedes has a more illustrious racing history than BMW, they know how to make a driver's car if they want to ( to be fair, I am sure BMW can also make cars that rides like a Mercedes), they just have a different target market.

Talent is talent, I am sure the engineer can design cars that suits BMW's requirements.

Thank you sir i can not agree with you more. And i cant stand people who bash the other brand you have to realize two different markets

Malek@MRF · 02-05-2013, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamspeed

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Originally Posted by shivaswrath

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Originally Posted by W///

So most of you think that 1 engineer means the whole company changes direction? How many here actually work in an engineering environment? Thought so.

Remember the Bangle design disaster??

Yes one can derail a lot...

Despite what some people think of his designs...BMW overtook Mercedes and became the number one premium car brand during the Bangle era.

The current crop of BMWs are also evolutions of his designs.

+1

Absolutely.

ALPINA B5 · 02-05-2013, 12:31 PM

so a M car that doesnt handles? xD

kmarei · 02-05-2013, 12:45 PM

thing is
i doubt he submitted his resume to BMW
which means BMW were actively trying to employ him
so i assume he knows something that BMW is trying to do, and can't do with its current crop of engineers

turbocharging without a HPFP failure maybe?

only thing that surprises me is he's a racer at heart, not a marketing type person
which is what, it seems, the current status of BMW M is

3M TAPE · 02-05-2013, 03:27 PM

I think he was employed due to the "M8" project.
Since MB has more experience with "super-cars"?

US///M3 · 02-05-2013, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by strati1

Nice! now make them heavier lol

BMW quit making 3,200lb M3's long time ago.

jlstyle · 02-05-2013, 06:32 PM

To everyone who thinks AMG master won't help out M division, please think again.
His knowledge on AMG will only spice up M further into the areas where M didn't think into or limited because of R&D fund isn't enough to widen the base.
This is a great news.

SF_E60 · 02-05-2013, 09:18 PM

What's that saying? If you can't beat them join them

M5007 · 02-06-2013, 01:59 AM

Most non-compete agreements are not enforceable. I don't think it will be an issue.

mgiglio2 · 02-07-2013, 10:54 PM

Personally, I think he was tired of designing the chassis for cars that always brake down...

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Who? Colonel 493 Rep 2,197 Posts Drives: F87 LCI Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Brisbane iTrader: (0)	as a huge fan of AMG (and also M, actually, im a huge fan of alot of things) I welcome this news. What concerns me is if ///M mimics AMG philosophies. To me: AMG- True German Hotrods ///M- Track Machines two different animals imo. hopefully, M stays true to their nature, while perhaps adding a 'black' series of cars as per rumours if you know what I mean. __________________ So far: 200cell downpipe, custom exhaust, lifhtweight splitter, m4 comp seats
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