[P1]

Picture your wife and kid in that red Jeep he almost hit. Is your blood boiling yet?

[jmg]

Originally Posted by P1et

Picture your wife and kid in that red Jeep he almost hit. Is your blood boiling yet?

Exactly. Driver was incredibly stupid. Hopefully he learned from this, because I'm sure he is not that much of a tool to not care about human life. He just got carried away.

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by P1et

Picture your wife and kid in that red Jeep he almost hit. Is your blood boiling yet?

I would have his head on a spit

[positiveions]

Wow, words can't describe this imbecile.

[DKX4///M]

Devils advocate...Ive had 5 or 6 6 cars over 300HP...Never lost it going sideways from a stop (wouldn't call that drifting)...

In my E92 M3 2 or 3 times did the exact same thing. I also only would do things like that where there was nothing to hit, not an open roa, mid day, with people and traffic...

But the rear going that far out, even full throttle and countersteer, the cars too just to heavy to throttle out...I learned early in that car when going "sideways" don't go anywhere as far out as this guy goes its almost impossible (for me) to keep the car controlled. Tried less counter steer so all that weight didnt have so much momentum, but even then didnt spin out, but def felt like i was out of control for a bit...

My $.02

[BMWPWR]

LOL - Learn how to drive on a skid pan before trying to do that on the street.

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by hoyasaxa

1) guy is a moron
2) what went wrong? Overcompensated for the oversteer? Lifted off?

I'm not a powerslide/drift expert by any means (my tires wear plenty fast as it is and I prefer the fast way around corners ), but it looks like for the unnecessarily high amount of throttle he added to initiate oversteer, he only straightened the wheel after getting the car pointed straight, when he actually should have counter-countersteered to the right a bit even before getting straightened in anticipation of that tank slapper. And then yes it sounds like he lifted off throttle when he started fishtailing to the right, presumably unexpectedly, which is the exact wrong thing to do, but until you retrain your instincts, it's what inexperienced drivers will do.

[bradleyland]

Honestly, there's no analysis warranted for this shit. It was a completely uncontrolled slide on public roads. If you want to learn how to control a slide, go to a racing school.

[335e92]

Shit happens! He just wanted to impress some people. Its easy for all of us to judge the guy but the truth is we are all car guys and all have done stupid shit one time or another. The only difference is that its not on video for everyone to judge us. He's probably a decent guy.

I do agree that if you are going to drive hard, practice in a controlled environment.

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by 335e92

Shit happens! He just wanted to impress some people. Its easy for all of us to judge the guy but the truth is we are all car guys and all have done stupid shit one time or another. The only difference is that its not on video for everyone to judge us. He's probably a decent guy.

I do agree that if you are going to drive hard, practice in a controlled environment.

Not me! No! Never!

Except that one time where I understeered my MR2 in to a ditch. Or that other time where I ended up facing the wrong way in an intersection driving my '83 Rabbit. Or that one other time where I drove in to a parked truck because my windshield was so fogged up and I wasn't patient enough to wait for it to clear. Or that other time...

Well, you get the idea. I'd never do something dumb in an automobile

[335e92]

Originally Posted by bradleyland

Not me! No! Never!

Except that one time where I understeered my MR2 in to a ditch. Or that other time where I ended up facing the wrong way in an intersection driving my '83 Rabbit. Or that one other time where I drove in to a parked truck because my windshield was so fogged up and I wasn't patient enough to wait for it to clear. Or that other time...

Well, you get the idea. I'd never do something dumb in an automobile

Can you imagine if someones family was in a ditch?

[sygazelle]

He confused the NOS button for the gas pedal. Easy mistake. We all do it.

[rainfall]

Do you think he had the traction control all the way off right? I've never played hard without any safety features, but I heard BRZs are pretty snappy even in sport mode.

Originally Posted by DKM3Power

Devils advocate...Ive had 5 or 6 6 cars over 300HP...Never lost it going sideways from a stop (wouldn't call that drifting)...

In my E92 M3 2 or 3 times did the exact same thing. I also only would do things like that where there was nothing to hit, not an open roa, mid day, with people and traffic...

But the rear going that far out, even full throttle and countersteer, the cars too just to heavy to throttle out...I learned early in that car when going "sideways" don't go anywhere as far out as this guy goes its almost impossible (for me) to keep the car controlled. Tried less counter steer so all that weight didnt have so much momentum, but even then didnt spin out, but def felt like i was out of control for a bit...

My $.02

[brianeck]

Originally Posted by firedown31

Kid in blue has no sense of awareness at all, or silently froze and shit his pants.

He was trying to catch a Pokemon.

[Jay-K]

good save? rotflrotfl

[DKX4///M]

Originally Posted by BMWPWR

LOL - Learn how to drive on a skid pan before trying to do that on the street.

I used empty parking lots at night with "'pretend obstacles" in my E92 M3

Although if anyone loses control in an M2 you should be shot....Ive never felt anything like the controlability of that car on 2 wheels...Its incredible...I cannot fathom doing what this guy did in an M2 ever, no matter what...a 12 year old girl woulda saved that.

[DKX4///M]

Originally Posted by rainfall

Do you think he had the traction control all the way off right? I've never played hard without any safety features, but I heard BRZs are pretty snappy even in sport mode.

100% you can't "ass out unless yout DSC is off...Newer models u have to go out of your way and Hold it for 5-10 seconds...The older E series you could just turn it off one button, making it thank much easier to be an idiot.

[paradoxical3]

Originally Posted by DKM3Power

I used empty parking lots at night with "'pretend obstacles" in my E92 M3

Although if anyone loses control in an M2 you should be shot....Ive never felt anything like the controlability of that car on 2 wheels...Its incredible...I cannot fathom doing what this guy did in an M2 ever, no matter what...a 12 year old girl woulda saved that.

I saved a 100mph tank slapper at the top of thunder valley at mid ohio last week. It should have been impossible, the car was sideways and unloaded at the top of the hill with no grip. Somehow the M2 allowed me to do it. 100% sure with a different car I would be into the wall.

[zx10guy]

Originally Posted by paradoxical3

I saved a 100mph tank slapper at the top of thunder valley at mid ohio last week. It should have been impossible, the car was sideways and unloaded at the top of the hill with no grip. Somehow the M2 allowed me to do it. 100% sure with a different car I would be into the wall.

Serious question.

Is that what the car track guys describe as a tank slapper? I ride motorcycles on the track and my definition of a tank slapper is totally different.

[paradoxical3]

Originally Posted by zx10guy

Serious question.

Is that what the car track guys describe as a tank slapper? I ride motorcycles on the track and my definition of a tank slapper is totally different.

It's really more of a motorcycle term but I use it colloquially to describe a slide in a car that involves three or four rapid slides and then overcorrections, causing the back end to oscillate back and forth.

[loveskiing]

Originally Posted by 335e92

Shit happens! He just wanted to impress some people. Its easy for all of us to judge the guy but the truth is we are all car guys and all have done stupid shit one time or another. The only difference is that its not on video for everyone to judge us. He's probably a decent guy.

I do agree that if you are going to drive hard, practice in a controlled environment.

Thank you for your kind words. I'm just a young kid wanting to impress my girlfriend and I didn't know about the car sliding or drifting etc. While I'm really embarrassed, I'm glad this happened because:
Now I'm famous and all the chicks dig me,
Now I learned that my tires can't be 1.5 psi off,
Now I know if I want to take someone out, just have them in a car opposite me when I do that stunt again,
Now I know that Boise rocks compared with Portland because we have rich potato farmers.
Thanks to everyone who helped me!

[ShocknAwe]

Damn that was close...