[pikkagtr]

Originally Posted by supra93

On top of my head the Honda CTR and Audi R8 also have a number of fake vents. I'm sure there are a bunch more to list if I had time to look it up.

Doesn't make it ok though
Yes all fake vents needs to go

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by pikkagtr

Doesn't make it ok though
Yes all fake vents needs to go

What did you do with the fake vents on your F80?

[supra93]

Originally Posted by pikkagtr

Doesn't make it ok though
Yes all fake vents needs to go

I never said it was, I was trying to point out the double standards of some.

[pikkagtr]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

What did you do with the fake vents on your F80?

I wasn't aware of any fake vents
Honest questions: can you point them out

[bobowar135]

Originally Posted by super51fan

Thats some air tight logic there bud

An auto is perfect for daily driving but for the full backroad driving experience, you can't beat three pedals and a gearstick. I considered an auto 135i purely because manuals were so rare, but I knew deep down that I would regret it sooner or later. It's a bugger in stop-start traffic, but that was a compromise I was prepared to make. Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-auto, just pro-manual.

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by pikkagtr

I wasn't aware of any fake vents
Honest questions: can you point them out

There aren't any.

[Germanauto]

I got to see it up and close at a cars & coffee in Orange County. Smells like a BMW inside lol.

I don't put any value into Youtube car "reviews" since they never say anything negative. Car & Driver, Motortrend, Road & Track, etc. are still the best reviews. They aren't a bunch of chumps just excited a company lent them a car for a day.

[super51fan]

Originally Posted by bobowar135

An auto is perfect for daily driving but for the full backroad driving experience, you can't beat three pedals and a gearstick. I considered an auto 135i purely because manuals were so rare, but I knew deep down that I would regret it sooner or later. It's a bugger in stop-start traffic, but that was a compromise I was prepared to make. Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-auto, just pro-manual.

Yeah a manual would make it more of a driver’s car but that doesn’t mean it isn’t a driver’s car already. Assigning specific rules to the driver’s car or not a driver’s car binary means that some could consider the 718 gt4 not a driver’s car because it has power steering. In today’s terms this would be called gatekeeping

[bobowar135]

Ideally a driver's car, I think, would have a manual...that's all.

[super51fan]

Originally Posted by bobowar135

Ideally a driver's car, I think, would have a manual...that's all.

That's all? TIL Sentras are driver's cars now

[supra93]

Originally Posted by 3GFX

Buddy of mine has owned it for a little while. Couple of things they didn't like at the shop...

I think most of his complaints are warranted, but...

#4: The fuel tank capacity isn't that far off from others.

4C: 10.5 gal
Zupra: 13.7 gal
Cayman: 14.2 gal
TT: 14.5 gal
SLC: 15.9 gal

#5: It's the same on Toyotas.

#10: It's a clam hood.. I have seen the same amount of gaps on past Z4s and Vipers.

[gonzo]

[N54Yankee]

Originally Posted by supra93

I never said it was, I was trying to point out the double standards of some.

Who’s double standards would that be?

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by supra93

I think most of his complaints are warranted, but...

#4: The fuel tank capacity isn't that far off from others.

4C: 10.5 gal
Zupra: 13.7 gal
Cayman: 14.2 gal
TT: 14.5 gal
SLC: 15.9 gal

#5: It's the same on Toyotas.

#10: It's a clam hood.. I have seen the same amount of gaps on past Z4s and Vipers.

The one complaining about no specific phone mount was pretty lame. I honestly expected the next complaint to be something like, "The largest can of Monster doesn't fit in the cup holder" or something equally lame.

I also don't get the complaint on the ZF vs DCT. The ZF shifts just as quickly, so who cares what type of auto it is? I don't care if it's literal hamsters pulling strings, I care about the end result.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

I REALLY wish the styling of the Supra wasn't so over the top. It's dialed up to 11 whereas an 8 would do. Too many fake vents, fins, foils, and a wonky nose. Otherwise, the shape is nice and overall, it's pretty damn killer car. Perhaps I'll change my mind when I see one in person.

I have two comments here.

1. I completely agree with your opinion on the Supra styling. They went too far with faking the funk.

2. The Supra does look better in person. I'm just not sure this point overcomes the first one for me.

[spiceyxi]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

I also don't get the complaint on the ZF vs DCT. The ZF shifts just as quickly, so who cares what type of auto it is? I don't care if it's literal hamsters pulling strings, I care about the end result.

I haven't driven the Supra, but I have driven ZFs and DCT. My 340i vs 135i extensively and shorter drives in Ms. Wouldn't be surprised if the shift speeds are the same, but the dct did feel like a more aggressive shift. It might all be in my mind, but I miss the dct.

[bobowar135]

Originally Posted by super51fan

That's all? TIL Sentras are driver's cars now

You know that is not what I mean, let's move on.

[hellrotm]

Launch Edition Supra auction on Bring a Trailer just ended, it barely reached msrp and didn’t sell.

[super51fan]

Originally Posted by bobowar135

You know that is not what I mean, let's move on.

Because what you meant to say is that it is not enough of a driver's car for you, which is perfectly valid, but let's not act like a driver's car is so cut and dry that it can be determined from a spec sheet.

[super51fan]

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by hellrotm

Launch Edition Supra auction on Bring a Trailer just ended, it barely reached msrp and didn’t sell.

People will attempt the same with the C8. In one year, there will be plenty of Supras and C8s to buy at MSRP or less. I'm eyeballing that white 1997 NSX-T on BAT right now. Now THAT is a true sports car

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by super51fan

Kind of interesting that they're going back to a air to air intercooler.