[Tyga11]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

If it fit my use case, absolutely.

I've owned two Model 3's, one a performance, and driven multiple EV's including many Taycan's, Etron GT, Rivian, etc. There is MUCH to be gained from the EV platform. There are always tradeoffs, of course.

I went back to G80 M3 ICE because that's the experience I wanted out of my daily driver because my use case is much shorter daily trips, and I wanted one car to do it all. I do not feel like the something like a Taycan would fit the bill for that.

But if I still had a 911 or another, maybe older M3 for weekends and fun trips, an EV M3 as a daily would honestly be better.

Cool - let me know when you buy one. This reminds me of when people claim they want the wagon but no one ever buys it. It's a good novelty item that has little demand.

[Tyga11]

Originally Posted by jmack123

Wait till they see the integrated motor braking that Mercedes is working on which they claim will eliminate brake fade (and eliminate the need for rotors/calipers which will significantly reduce unsprung mass).

The reality is that most of the pushback on this site toward EVs is of the feelings over facts variety.

Feelings over facts...is that why BMW is giving away electric cars? There is no demand. People don't want to wait 45 minutes at a charging station. The infrastructure is still not there.

[forcefed]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...formance-test/


Ninja edit go read it again

That's honestly the weight the next m3 should be, the current i4 is 5000lbs for whatever reason.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Tyga11

“Feelings over facts...is that why BMW is giving away electric cars? There is no demand…’

Because they’re overpriced.

Every single one of them

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by forcefed

That's honestly the weight the next m3 should be, the current i4 is 5000lbs for whatever reason.

It’s also $80,000 nicely equipped

Because it is not a built from the ground up electric vehicle that’s their problem

[kudos]

Originally Posted by G MONEY

The way the past 2 gens have sounded, silence would be an improvement. Lol. Can’t imagine anyone with decent hearing can argue, that’s something to be missed

At least it can be fixed with aftermarket. This... thing can't.

[Chihuahua]

Originally Posted by forcefed

Name an ev under 3400lbs.

BMW i3

[Tyga11]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Because they’re overpriced.

Every single one of them

Tesla included or just everyone else?

[M-technik-3]

Looks very bland and under inspired. Love the freezing fog after effect photos.

[kudos]

Originally Posted by Tyga11

Tesla included or just everyone else?

Tesla only works when there are good rebates and tax incentives. The interior and build quality are absolute trash.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Tyga11

Tesla included or just everyone else?

Just everyone else… ‼️

[hova00]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

'Narrative pushed by political agenda' is your narrative.

Also, almost all new cars will be EVs in less than a couple of decades. Meanwhile, you can keep lying to yourself.

Appreciate the passion, but let’s clarify: acknowledging market trends and consumer preferences isn’t my ‘narrative’; it’s just recognizing where the industry is heading.

If EV’s are so popular then why are manufacturers practically giving them away.
Ohh I know…No one is buying them. In addition the resale is atrocious.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by kudos

Tesla only works when there are good rebates and tax incentives. The interior and build quality are absolute trash.

You are incorrect my new model three is $54,990 without incentives…and there’s nothing else on the market that can touch it and the build is now fantastic with an exception of the paint and I got that rectified.

They suck at customer service and that’s just reality. Hopefully that will change in time but until then they are the worst.

[hova00]

Just in the NEW EV M3 without camouflage!!

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by hova00

Just in the NEW EV M3 without camouflage!!

Costco eye exams… $99 hurry in today

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by hova00

Appreciate the passion, but let’s clarify: acknowledging market trends and consumer preferences isn’t my ‘narrative’; it’s just recognizing where the industry is heading.

If EV’s are so popular then why are manufacturers practically giving them away.
Ohh I know…No one is buying them. In addition the resale is atrocious.

Because for the price they’re selling them at there’s no value proposition. They are building overrated vehicles for a ridiculously high price and nobody’s interested in that.

[robopp]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

And it's about 2000HP.

The used price is about $3 Million, more expensive than a new one (Which is about t$2.5Million). As they only make like 40 a year.

There’s a new one (2023) for sale in Naples, FL listed for $2.75M. Used market can’t be for over msrp if this new one is sitting for this long. Again, I’d like to see some real, not anecdotal data

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

Those who're upset that there will be an electric M3 are the problem with the world. Their existence is bad for all of us - not just from protecting environment POV but also being close minded, against change and innovation.

I do not care as long as it's not forced down our throats. As long as BMW offers both EV and ICE options, the market and technology will dictate what stays and what goes. If ICE loses demand and BMW stops producing them, that's fine with me.

That said, your post that those who dislike the idea of an electric M3 are "the problem with the world" seems a bit extreme. im pretty sure there are more critical problems in the world than someone preferring a combustion engine over an EV?

Ironically, you're accusing others of being close minded while unwilling to accept different opinions yourself. Not everyone who prefers ICE vehicles is "against change and innovation." Some may not like the driving experience

[forcefed]

Originally Posted by Chihuahua

BMW i3

Were comparing high performance cars here not grocery getters.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

I do not care as long as it's not forced down our throats. As long as BMW offers both EV and ICE options, the market and technology will dictate what stays and what goes. If ICE loses demand and BMW stops producing them, that's fine with me.

That said, your post that those who dislike the idea of an electric M3 are "the problem with the world" seems a bit extreme. im pretty sure there are more critical problems in the world than someone preferring a combustion engine over an EV?

Ironically, you're accusing others of being close minded while unwilling to accept different opinions yourself. Not everyone who prefers ICE vehicles is "against change and innovation." Some may not like the driving experience

💯

[hova00]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Costco eye exams… $99 hurry in today

Wow, $99? Thanks for the tip! I’ll be sure to schedule an appointment right after I finish squinting at your irrelevant comment.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

💯

Originally Posted by hova00

Wow, $99? Thanks for the tip! I’ll be sure to schedule an appointment right after I finish squinting at your irrelevant comment.

OK here let me make it more relevant to you. You have no clue as to what you’re comparing ones a sedan and so the other, but nothing is similar when it comes to the design itself so yeah, either go get your eyes checked or quit posting stupid shit.