[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Jonas02

The iX3 (G08) for Europe is produced in China and except for the “engine” identical to the X3 (G01) looking at the interior. When in 2021, only half a year after the launch of the iX3, the X3 got a LCI, this was also the case for the iX3.

With the launch of G45 in 8-24 in Spartanburg and the plug-in hybrid G45 in South-Africa (also 8-24?), I’m curious if the iX3 will also get an interior update in line with the regular X3?

The current iX3 G08 is falling behind when it comes to range and charging speeds and besides the interior could really use an update from the DC 150KW to >200KW seen in the i4/i5/iX. Also the AC charging speed with 11KW could be improved to 22KW. Then the range of 465km WLTP could also really be improved, at least the better cw of the new G45 could help. Is there anything you can find on a possible update?
Or will the current iX3 from China continue exactly as is till mid 2025 when the Neue Klasse iX3 NA5 is launched in Hungary?

Last question: I know it’s not relevant for the US, but the X3 G45 plug-in hybrid will be produced in South-Africa and also receive an update from the current plug-in hybrid. Any details on new battery capacity? Charging speed? Will it only have AC charging or like a lot of VW Group cars get DC charging as well on the PHEV?

All your questions either have been answered in the top post or don't have available answers.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by Wozich

The current 30d in the G01 X3 already has a mild hybrid setup and what’s less known from the current 30d is that it has 2 turbos. Some sources say it’s a detuned M40d from the pre LCI G01 X3.

Maybe they will detune it even more and compensate with a more powerful hybrid setup… or just slap a different badge on it and call it a day.

I think it’s smart they will still offer the 6 cyl diesels in the EU market.

Thanks for the constant flow of interesting news.

740d is also a 30d in terms of power output.

G60/61 will also have a 40d only as well.

I think bmw is just playing with the naming scheme again before they kill the diesels altogether.

[BMW Kayto]

Originally Posted by Jonas02

The iX3 (G08) for Europe is produced in China and except for the “engine” identical to the X3 (G01) looking at the interior. When in 2021, only half a year after the launch of the iX3, the X3 got a LCI, this was also the case for the iX3.

With the launch of G45 in 8-24 in Spartanburg and the plug-in hybrid G45 in South-Africa (also 8-24?), I’m curious if the iX3 will also get an interior update in line with the regular X3?

The current iX3 G08 is falling behind when it comes to range and charging speeds and besides the interior could really use an update from the DC 150KW to >200KW seen in the i4/i5/iX. Also the AC charging speed with 11KW could be improved to 22KW. Then the range of 465km WLTP could also really be improved, at least the better cw of the new G45 could help. Is there anything you can find on a possible update?
Or will the current iX3 from China continue exactly as is till mid 2025 when the Neue Klasse iX3 NA5 is launched in Hungary?

Last question: I know it’s not relevant for the US, but the X3 G45 plug-in hybrid will be produced in South-Africa and also receive an update from the current plug-in hybrid. Any details on new battery capacity? Charging speed? Will it only have AC charging or like a lot of VW Group cars get DC charging as well on the PHEV?

BMW X3 (G01) and iX3 (G08) was kinda special because BMW wanted to jump onto the EV train so they forced the X3 into an iX3 version without xDrive (for me kind of unacceptable for an X-Modell above X1 und X2). So they use basically the same plattform, just the names are different and so shortly after the release of the iX3 they released the facelift of the X3 and also shorty after the initial iX3 release they had to made the facelift aswell.

X3 (G45) and iX3 (neue Klasse) will be totally different from the beginning.

What i expect from the X3 PHEV is a similar battery capacity like the 5 series. Around 100 km range, same charging AC charging speed with 7,4 kW and no DC.
Maybe BMW will prove me wrong, but i do not think so.

[JensM]

Originally Posted by Wozich

The current 30d in the G01 X3 already has a mild hybrid setup and what’s less known from the current 30d is that it has 2 turbos. Some sources say it’s a detuned M40d from the pre LCI G01 X3.

Maybe they will detune it even more and compensate with a more powerful hybrid setup… or just slap a different badge on it and call it a day.

I think it’s smart they will still offer the 6 cyl diesels in the EU market.

Thanks for the constant flow of interesting news.

I don’t see why they will not go with the current 40D set up which includes the mild hybrid technology. This has 340hp/700 nm. As the new 50i is rumored to get a power increase it doesn’t make sense to reduce output in the 40D version which is one of the best diesel engines build across all brands

[DDS2015]

[QUOTE=ynguldyn;31140024]Buy it.

Done, I take delivery next week. Looking forward to adding it to my Atlantis on ivory M4 MT

[Deho]

Originally Posted by BMW Kayto

What i expect from the X3 PHEV is a similar battery capacity like the 5 series. Around 100 km range, same charging AC charging speed with 7,4 kW and no DC.
Maybe BMW will prove me wrong, but i do not think so.

From first drives by reviewers it seems to be the case: the G45 will probably get an upgrade to its battery, range and charging speed over the current model.

What the predictions of this thread don't say is if the "LCI2" 330e will also get these upgrades. I hope so. The 330e is a bit behind with its small current battery and charging speed. Not a good buy in 2024.

[kardkovacsi]

Originally Posted by Deho

From first drives by reviewers it seems to be the case: the G45 will probably get an upgrade to its battery, range and charging speed over the current model.

What the predictions of this thread don't say is if the "LCI2" 330e will also get these upgrades. I hope so. The 330e is a bit behind with its small current battery and charging speed. Not a good buy in 2024.

Bingo. They have released the new 3 series LCI2. The PHEV has 19.5 kWh battery and 11 kW charging speed.

[Deho]

Originally Posted by kardkovacsi

Bingo. They have released the new 3 series LCI2. The PHEV has 19.5 kWh battery and 11 kWh charging speed.

YES!

Problem is... it doesn't seem to be available in North America! Which doesn't make sense to me, because it's so much better than the current version.

[kardkovacsi]

Originally Posted by Deho

YES!

Problem is... it doesn't seem to be available in North America! Which doesn't make sense to me, because it's so much better than the current version.

Usually there is a few month delay between the EU and the US release. I think they are going to release it in October or November.
By the way the 19,5 is the net capacity, the gross is 22,3.
I start to regret my order of an i4 this March. I did not want to order a PHEV because of the small battery, but they almost doubled the capacity once again. The F30 330e had net 5,7, which I own at the moment and they replaced the whole battery pack under warranty a few month ago because the battery died (too many charging cycles kills the battery) so I had concerns ordering another PHEV.

[Ragohsmall]

Does the M550 in the US for 2020 will get the new 535hp engine?

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by Ragohsmall

Does the M550 in the US for 2020 will get the new 535hp engine?

Thats the opposite of a future model. But it did get the updated TU3 engine.

[mbanck]

I guess Horatiu from BMW Blog shooting down this story (S58 in the Z4 final run) by Auto Motor & Sport is enough, but do you have any comments on this? https://www.bmwblog.com/2024/05/31/n...ngine-planned/

[RigaTony1982]

Originally Posted by mbanck

I guess Horatiu from BMW Blog shooting down this story (S58 in the Z4 final run) by Auto Motor & Sport is enough, but do you have any comments on this? https://www.bmwblog.com/2024/05/31/n...ngine-planned/

Unfortunate, but not surprising. Honestly, the car can have trouble putting down the power with the B58 (I own a 2023 M40i) off the line.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by mbanck

I guess Horatiu from BMW Blog shooting down this story (S58 in the Z4 final run) by Auto Motor & Sport is enough, but do you have any comments on this? https://www.bmwblog.com/2024/05/31/n...ngine-planned/

He's obviously right. I'm surprised there were still people holding out hope.

[ynguldyn]

Added news about various M cars; next X7 lineup; other bits and pieces.

[jphcbpa]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Added news about various M cars; next X7 lineup; other bits and pieces.

on the x7, I was hoping for a PHEV version.

Models will include X7 40, 40d, M60, Alpina 60, iX7 50, 60, M70, Alpina 100 (all xDrive).

[brad850csi]

Alpina 100, hmm.

I like the XB7, B5, B7 etc naming scheme but I'm not sure about Alpina then 2 or 3 random numbers, it makes them sound like a model a few steps above the normal BMWs, not a completely different product.

Of course with the change in ownership, I guess that is to be expected

[Goldino]

Finally we get to see what BMW plans to do with ALPINA but ALPINA 100 ?
I don't know how powerful it will be but at this point they should just call it iX7 ALPINA as a special flagship model and that's it.
I guess ALPINA will be as an exclusive trim for the 7 series and X7 only.

Where else on the internet can we find this quality of early information about upcoming Audi and Mercedes models ?

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Added news about various M cars; next X7 lineup; other bits and pieces.

G60 i5 edrive 40i is already ending production in February?? Are sales so bad that they’re bagging it altogether? That’s less than two total years of production and I feel like they made a lot of design sacrifices specifically so that they could accomodate the battery for the EV version.

[agorski]

Originally Posted by NGT2

G60 i5 edrive 40i is already ending production in February?? Are sales so bad that they’re bagging it altogether?

This doesn't mean that all i5 models are gone. At first I thought this referred to the naming scheme change where the "eDrive 40" nomenclature would disappear. Or maybe the sales of the xDrive40 are so much better that it's not worth importing the eDrive40. Personally, I think the eDrive40 is the one to get for price and handling reasons.

[xlover]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Added news about various M cars; next X7 lineup; other bits and pieces.

Am I reading this right that we don’t see a PHEV in plans for the next gen x7? Or we won’t see a pure ICE, plug-in is the only ice option?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by xlover

Am I reading this right that we don’t see a PHEV in plans for the next gen x7? Or we won’t see a pure ICE, plug-in is the only ice option?

No PHEVs yet.