[M3WC]

Originally Posted by supra93

Has the B48 been axed in Canada?

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/did...pra-2-0.13467/

https://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/vehicles/supra/overview

Who was even buying the Supra 2.0 in the first place? Now it is completely dead.

[x622]

Originally Posted by MarkR171

This dealer in particular was referred to me by a friend who's done business with them in the past. Their policy is to sell at MSRP.

I signed their regular deposit agreement with one of the check boxes as "VEHICLE SALE PRICE WILL BE MSRP AT THE TIME OF DELIVERY." No build sheet yet, but it's for a 2023 Supra with a manual transmission. I'm #2 in line at this dealer. #1 was in line before the official announcement.

Every dealer is different, I guess.

Which one? Toyota of Suprise called me and asked for 20k over. I laughed.
86k for a A91, 20k over on a 66k car. I'd like to get one for my brother in law, so if you can, I'd appreciate your assistance.

[MarkR171]

Originally Posted by x622

Which one? Toyota of Suprise called me and asked for 20k over. I laughed.
86k for a A91, 20k over on a 66k car. I'd like to get one for my brother in law, so if you can, I'd appreciate your assistance.

Not local here, it's a dealer in Tacoma, WA.

[dangerus_car]

Originally Posted by supra93

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/fir...on-look.13403/

supra name used to be the halo name, and is compared with NSX and GTR, not the Z... man, toyota really lower the supra name value

in the 90s, the tier is the following

tier 1 - supra, NSX, GTR, RX7
tier 1.5 - fairlady Z (300 zx), 3000GT (probably 3000GT is tier 1?), S2000 (late player in early 2000s when 300zx was out)
tier 2 - celica, prelude, integra type R, silvia (240 sx), MR2, mitsubishi eclipse
tier 3 - civic, corolla, etc (not really know this tier)

[MarkR171]

Originally Posted by dangerus_car

supra name used to be the halo name, and is compared with NSX and GTR, not the Z... man, toyota really lower the supra name value

in the 90s, the tier is the following

tier 1 - supra, NSX, GTR, RX7
tier 1.5 - fairlady Z (300 zx), 3000GT (probably 3000GT is tier 1?), S2000 (late player in early 2000s when 300zx was out)
tier 2 - celica, prelude, integra type R, silvia (240 sx), MR2, mitsubishi eclipse
tier 3 - civic, corolla, etc (not really know this tier)

I think more so, the NSX and GTR went up a tier as they are now no cheaper than "halo" GT3/4 Porsches.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by dangerus_car

supra name used to be the halo name, and is compared with NSX and GTR, not the Z... man, toyota really lower the supra name value

in the 90s, the tier is the following

tier 1 - supra, NSX, GTR, RX7
tier 1.5 - fairlady Z (300 zx), 3000GT (probably 3000GT is tier 1?), S2000 (late player in early 2000s when 300zx was out)
tier 2 - celica, prelude, integra type R, silvia (240 sx), MR2, mitsubishi eclipse
tier 3 - civic, corolla, etc (not really know this tier)

The NSX was way more expensive than the rest (about 50%) so definately a tier above.
The GTR was of course always a RHD so not really a contemporary contender unless you live in Japan, the UK or Australia.
So:
Tier 1: NSX
Tier 2: Supra turbo/RX7 TT/300zx TT/GT3000/Skyline r34 (if applicable)

The z3m roadster was priced slightly under the tier 2 cars, but it came out about the time a lot of those cars got retired.

[dangerus_car]

if you are categorizing car tier based on price, then yes, NSX is tier 1 while the rest is tier 2, etc. I am categorizing car based on performance, and NSX is the same tier as Supra, RX7, and GTR R34.

3000GT never really challenge these cars in term of performance, but somewhat i remember in late 90s, it's always mentioned due to being the #1 mitsubishi car, then it got compared with #1 of honda, nissan, mazda, and toyota.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by dangerus_car

I am categorizing car based on performance,

Performance as in?

Engine power?
Actual track times set on a specific track by a test driver or a magazine? (nordschleife for example)
Actual race merits?
Do you take the weight of the cars into account?
The RX7 and NSX are both light. The rest is pretty heavy. (not considering the s2000 and lower tier cars here)

[MarkR171]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Performance as in?

Street cred and hype

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by MarkR171

Street cred and hype

[G MONEY]

I had a 91 300zx Turbo. Stillen intake, Greddy exhaust, HKs boost controller Jim Wolfe chip. That thing was fast. It got stolen and torched in Camden. Lol. Loved that car. Use to whoop a lot of ass at the Philly Street races.

[Piper1]

Originally Posted by dangerus_car

supra name used to be the halo name, and is compared with NSX and GTR, not the Z... man, toyota really lower the supra name value

in the 90s, the tier is the following

tier 1 - supra, NSX, GTR, RX7
tier 1.5 - fairlady Z (300 zx), 3000GT (probably 3000GT is tier 1?), S2000 (late player in early 2000s when 300zx was out)
tier 2 - celica, prelude, integra type R, silvia (240 sx), MR2, mitsubishi eclipse
tier 3 - civic, corolla, etc (not really know this tier)

Let’s not forget, being a former MK3 owner how the ignorant thought it was… a probe

[Mr Pete]

I like the new Supra, though I wish it was a 2+2 like the previous 2 gens.

[jmack]

Originally Posted by Mr Pete

I like the new Supra, though I wish it was a 2+2 like the previous 2 gens.

Wouldn't be surprised if BMW had a hand in that since it would essentially be a different styled M240i.

[MarkR171]

Originally Posted by jmack

Wouldn't be surprised if BMW had a hand in that since it would essentially be a different styled M240i.

BMW *did* have a hand in that... because Z4s don't have rear seats.

[Donatello.]

Supra makes the new Z look boring...

[pikkagtr]

Welp the day is here
Parted ways with my F80 not too long ago and I'm back in another BMW .....er of sorts
Found a MY22 GR Supra for MSRP in Oregon and will be taking delivery today. Going to visit the last Blockbuster in Bend and taking the Pacific Coast Highway back to the Bay Area
Let me say this.....it looks much better in person than the pictures

[heavyD^2]

Congrats. I find these cars are stunners in person as in photos you would never expect it to be smaller than the GR86 and when you see how small it is in person, the styling totally works. You will get a lot of attention from strangers which could be good or bad depending on how much you like that.

[pikkagtr]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

Congrats. I find these cars are stunners in person as in photos you would never expect it to be smaller than the GR86 and when you see how small it is in person, the styling totally works. You will get a lot of attention from strangers which could be good or bad depending on how much you like that.

Thanks
Yea gotta get dark tints now
Don't want to get recorded randomly at a light without know and have me picking my noise posted to YouTube

[supra93]

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/202...pricing.14231/

Browsing the Toyota Pressroom site and saw this PDF document (located on the right sidebar) on the 2023 Toyota GR Supra page which not only confirms that the manual will be priced at the exact same, but the A91-MT being priced at not much more than the premium. I haven't seen anything officially released for 2023 pricing or posted here yet, but it's conveniently located on the Toyota website so maybe everyone already knew. Thoughts?

Click above or see below:

2370 2023 GR Supra 2.0 I4 $43,540
2372 2023 GR Supra 3.0 Base I6 $52,500
2374 2023 GR Supra 3.0 Premium I6 $55,650
2383 2023 GR Supra 3.0 Base MT $52,500
2385 2023 GR Supra 3.0 Premium MT $55,650
2387 2023 GR Supra 3.0 A91-MT $58,345

[NickyC]

Damn, I'd really be interested in this car now but with no targa roof I just cannot do it.

[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by NickyC

Damn, I'd really be interested in this car now but with no targa roof I just cannot do it.

So you're buying a Corvette?