Secret E34 M5 Touring with McLaren F1 Engine

BEM-S4 · 07-10-2019, 09:29 AM

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There's a secret BMW E34 M5 Wagon with a McLaren F1 engine in it

July 9, 2019

Before the mighty 6.1-liter V-12 developed for the McLaren F1 made its way to the supercar, it was proven in a peculiar prototype vehicle: a BMW E34 M5 wagon.

BMW built and tested a one-off M5 wagon prototype with the 6.1-liter V-12, and BMW still has the car, too. The Collecting Cars podcast, which "Top Gear" presenter Chris Harris hosts, spoke with David Clark last month, who was director of McLaren road and race cars from 1994-1998. He revealed the story of the BMW M5 wagon as the test vehicle for the massive V-12 and said he's also driven the car.

"It's an outrageous thing," Clark said of the V-12-powered M5 wagon. We can only imagine, but a 627 horsepower M5 wagon with 479 pound-feet of torque sounds marvelous. Although those aren't gobsmaking numbers by today's standards, recall that the M5 made 311 hp at the time and 266 lb-ft of torque.

Clark added the M5 wagon prototype still resides at BMW as part of a secret collection of prototypes. However, the public has never seen the car. Perhaps with Clark's comments out in the open, BMW will be more open about showing the incredible car off.

Although Clark has nothing but love for the 6.1-liter V-12 and the F1 itself, the program, he said, was not a cash cow. In fact, he was ordered to find a way out of the engine deal with BMW after the F1's launch. BMW was supposed to supply 350 engines, but McLaren only built 106 cars.

Today, there's nothing quite like the F1, but that will soon change. Gordon Murray, the instrumental design figure behind the F1, plans to introduce a successor the beloved supercar. The supercar will house a V-12 and even a manual transmission. Murray said the car is the last chance for companies to build something in the spirit of the original F1 as emissions and regulations start to squeeze more traditional supercars out of production.

Red Bread · 07-10-2019, 10:42 AM

I have a flashlight and a lock picking set, plus remedial German skills. Anyone up for a clandestine trip to München?

RJC612 · 07-10-2019, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

I have a flashlight and a lock picking set, plus remedial German skills. Anyone up for a clandestine trip to München?

In!

I'm a sucker for a sweet wagon

Igor_M5 · 07-10-2019, 10:54 AM

0-60Motorsports · 07-10-2019, 10:56 AM

That thing must be awesome. I really hope BMW will bring it out of hiding one day.

F06msportmia · 07-10-2019, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Igor_M5

https://i.imgur.com/AINRTWZ.gif

That's some funny sh!t...

deemo319 · 07-10-2019, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

I have a flashlight and a lock picking set, plus remedial German skills. Anyone up for a clandestine trip to München?

We are looking for people to join our team. IMF or Impossible Mission Force.

We will do what we must, we will do what is needed. The mission should you chose to accept is as known Operation Dragon.

Situated within a clandestine garage somewhere on the outskirts of Munich...

(cue Mission Impossible music)

amw896 · 07-10-2019, 11:20 AM

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lol nice gif

positiveions · 07-10-2019, 11:23 AM

Read an article way back in one of the car magazine that BMW was working Some E34 M5s Turbo that produced 450hp. It was a test mule that never made it to this side of the continent.

GioM3 · 07-10-2019, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

I have a flashlight and a lock picking set, plus remedial German skills. Anyone up for a clandestine trip to München?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Bread

I have a flashlight and a lock picking set, plus remedial German skills. Anyone up for a clandestine trip to München?

I'm up for it, I can only offer brute force!!!!

Red Bread · 07-10-2019, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GioM3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Bread

I have a flashlight and a lock picking set, plus remedial German skills. Anyone up for a clandestine trip to München?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Bread

I have a flashlight and a lock picking set, plus remedial German skills. Anyone up for a clandestine trip to München?

I'm up for it, I can only offer brute force!!!!

That's fine, I'm an accountant and don't really bring any of that.

GioM3 · 07-10-2019, 11:33 AM

Sounds too good to be true if you calm down and think about it, F1 and 850csi had same block engines, they could've used 8 series for a mule..... also they showed prototype M8 in pictures before and in flesh on Goodwood Festival of Speed, I don't see why would they keep F1 engined M5 as a secret so long, they showed e34 M5 convertible prototype, e46 M3 estate prototype.

10" · 07-10-2019, 11:43 AM

Pretty much the greatest wagon ever made!!!

dmboone25 · 07-10-2019, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GioM3

I'm up for it, I can only offer brute force!!!!

Every squad needs an enforcer.

Maybe they will let Chris Harris do a Top Gear special on the car?? That would be amazing...can you imagine how good that thing sounds?

dmboone25 · 07-10-2019, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GioM3

Sounds too good to be true if you calm down and think about it, F1 and 850csi had same block engines, they could've used 8 series for a mule..... also they showed prototype M8 in pictures before and in flesh on Goodwood Festival of Speed, I don't see why would they keep F1 engined M5 as a secret so long, they showed e34 M5 convertible prototype, e46 M3 estate prototype.

Maybe it was a skunks-work project? Like when they made the E92 M3 pick up truck...only this was kept secret so they wouldn't lose the car to the corporate vultures...

cotmfk · 07-10-2019, 11:56 AM

Must acquire

NickyC · 07-10-2019, 12:21 PM

If true: GOAT

Mrgunfun · 07-10-2019, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BEM-S4

BMW built and tested a one-off M5 wagon prototype with the 6.1-liter V-12, and BMW still has the car, too.

Sedan_Clan · 07-10-2019, 03:01 PM

That's some trick modding right there.

Old Boy · 07-10-2019, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

I have a flashlight and a lock picking set, plus remedial German skills. Anyone up for a clandestine trip to München?

Count me in, I'd like us to re-enact the Magnificent Seven flick.
My salient qualification for the heist is that I can drink lottsa Bavarian beer with no apparent ill effect ….as an added bonus, with each successive beer stein my colloquial German dramatically improves.

MmmmmM2 · 07-10-2019, 03:27 PM

No pics??? BOO!!!

Darth One · 07-10-2019, 03:34 PM

Is the driver’s seat in the middle, too?

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