KIA has poached another one!

SabineBimmer · 10-28-2020, 01:05 AM

https://carbuzz.com/news/former-bmw-...-of-kia-design

This is intriguing, since this talented gentleman whom they hired was the lead designer in the 3.0 CSL Hommage Concept. I will be very much interested in what KIA will come out with now that they have Albert Bierman and Won Kyu Kang.

fiveohwblow · 10-28-2020, 01:08 AM

Interesting indeed. They’ve continued to impress me with their Kia/hyundai/genesis offerings. Imagine if we all started switching....

Mavus · 10-28-2020, 08:27 AM

interesting

just saw K5 commercial claiming it is faster than 330i ... they are in full attack mode

..Rush.. · 10-28-2020, 11:20 AM

Yes, there's been a number of KIA's I see that now resemble BMW's.

They're even copying that side of the car M-vent on the KIA 's.

GOLFFRR · 10-28-2020, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ..Rush..

Yes, there's been a number of KIA's I see that now resemble BMW's.

They're even copying that side of the car M-vent on the KIA 's.

I was just about the mention the vent. good for them, Im all about the competition I think it makes everyone better. its a win win for everyone

freakystyly · 10-28-2020, 12:46 PM

https://www.bmwblog.com/2013/02/15/e...-coupe-design/

Looks like he had a big part in the first gen 4 series.

SteveinArizona · 10-28-2020, 01:48 PM

But KIA is copying the old BMW that actually used good designs. I never thought I would say this but if BMW doesn't change, I might be buying a KIA instead of a BMW next time.

SemSav · 10-28-2020, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveinArizona

But KIA is copying the old BMW that actually used good designs. I never thought I would say this but if BMW doesn't change, I might be buying a KIA instead of a BMW next time.

yeahhh, the same about me, when i saw new M4, my eyes were cring

King Rudi · 10-28-2020, 02:12 PM

I've looked at the K5. Still not all that impressed with Kia, but I can appreciate the direction they are headed. The K5 to me seems like it's a mosh-up of top tier brands sport sedans. Almost like they took design details of most cars an incorporated all of them into one car. I'll be interested to see where they end up in the next 10 years.

yco · 10-28-2020, 02:29 PM

backend looks pretty nice and A column looks interesting..

SabineBimmer · 10-28-2020, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveinArizona

But KIA is copying the old BMW that actually used good designs. I never thought I would say this but if BMW doesn't change, I might be buying a KIA instead of a BMW next time.

Agree.

See5 · 10-28-2020, 04:09 PM

There's a lot more former BMW guys over at Hyundai than people think...

stein_325i · 10-28-2020, 04:27 PM

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There's a lot more former BMW guys over at Hyundai than people think...

Yep, I have a feeling a lot of it is because Hyundai is giving them a large amount of creative freedoms that BMW and the Germans (there are also employees with Hyundai from VAG there too) were giving them.

fiveohwblow · 10-28-2020, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by See5

There's a lot more former BMW guys over at Hyundai than people think...

Checked out a buddies Elantra ES, its very evident.

jpy1980 · 10-28-2020, 08:30 PM

Dude you guys need to see the new genesis models, esp the new suv that’s coming out.

These Korean cars are looking great these days. I’m proud of my motherland. Yet I love German cars haha

5.M0NSTER · 10-29-2020, 02:16 PM

As long as they can keep the quality up, and keep backing it up with that great warranty, this is the direction I want to see. Fun, fast and affordable and reliable.

chassis · 10-29-2020, 05:46 PM

If the South Koreans can deliver quality products with features and performance similar to BMW and Mercedes, they will gain and the Germans will lose.

Mercedes is particularly vulnerable because of their widespread and severe quality and reliability issues across their model range, across most of the past decade.

SteveinArizona · 10-29-2020, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chassis

If the South Koreans can deliver quality products with features and performance similar to BMW and Mercedes, they will gain and the Germans will lose.

Mercedes is particularly vulnerable because of their widespread and severe quality and reliability issues across their model range, across most of the past decade.

I would say both Mercedes and BMW are at risk. merc, as you say, because of their longstanding reliability problems. BMW because of horrific modern design.

SabineBimmer · 10-29-2020, 07:03 PM

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If the South Koreans can deliver quality products with features and performance similar to BMW and Mercedes, they will gain and the Germans will lose.

Mercedes is particularly vulnerable because of their widespread and severe quality and reliability issues across their model range, across most of the past decade.

Fully agree. BMWs quality, while better, is still lagging.

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