dead insects stuck to paint

G30M · 03-23-2023, 02:39 AM

i think i need stronger car wash

i have a ceramic coating which doesn't seem to do much vs insects at 60mph

thanks for any tips

SenorFunkyPants · 03-23-2023, 03:25 AM

Lay wet towels over the affected area for a while before a wash to loosen them up.

malvern_man · 03-23-2023, 06:34 AM

Gyeon Bug & Grime Remover.

https://gyeon.co/product/buggrime/

Tejas1836 · 03-23-2023, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Lay wet towels over the affected area for a while before a wash to loosen them up.

Came here to post this, works like a charm without scrubbing

dudley@07726 · 03-23-2023, 07:39 AM

So much for ceramic coating helping.

tracer bullet · 03-23-2023, 08:43 AM

Hah I thought I was the only one that did the wet paper towel thing! Yeah it's basically like soaking a messy pot in the sink before cleaning it. The paper towel will hold the water somewhat in place, an the bug will soak it up and be far easier to remove.

Westside Guy · 03-23-2023, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dudley@07726

So much for ceramic coating helping.

A bug that splatters on your paint and then dries after being baked by the sun would still need a little TLC to remove even if the car has ceramic coating. Bird droppings often require the same type of treatment.

SenorFunkyPants did give the perfect solution and tracer bullet's comparison to soaking a messy pot was pardon the pun, "spot on"!

G30M · 03-23-2023, 01:28 PM

thanks guys. yeah so much for ceramic coating!

lanlilan · 03-23-2023, 03:08 PM

I also slap on a soaked paper towel on the affected area, works like a charm removing bird droppings.

Rob_G77 · 03-23-2023, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lanlilan

I also slap on a soaked paper towel on the affected area, works like a charm removing bird droppings.

I do the same for bird poo. Then just dab it lightly to remove.

Rob

TboneS54 · 03-23-2023, 04:16 PM

Yes, dab aka blot, do not scrape/slide/wipe.

You could also spray the droppings/bugs with a bug/tar remover spray ahead of washing the car so the process is touchless so as not incur marring.

Forzanerazzurri · 03-23-2023, 05:32 PM

Ceramic coating is snake oil. Bird droppings burn right through it too.

TboneS54 · 03-23-2023, 05:40 PM

That's the point, it's sacrificial.

Ceramic coatings have been around a while, and their strengths and weaknesses are well known at this point. Maybe someone promised that a coating could do something it can't (like stop marring), so you're sore about it?

Of course acidic bird poop is gonna burn through anything. Better than burning through your clear coat.

TheMidnightNarwhal · 03-23-2023, 05:42 PM

I like to use a bug remover. I have CarPro bugout. An APC can work to.

TheMidnightNarwhal · 03-23-2023, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

Ceramic coating is snake oil. Bird droppings burn right through it too.

Idk what kind of quality ceramic coating you have but most will resist bird poop yes. Also it doesn't matter much if it just remove an area as you probably already use a as you should topper every once in a while product or maintenance LSP after a wash.

You have to view it literally as a wax/paint sealant that last much longer and will usually have better PH resistances. That's it. When you understand that, it's not snake oil... some people may have tried to tout other benefits that make it seem like it is.

G30M · 03-23-2023, 06:18 PM

Bird poop wipes off. But insects...

Nettles · 03-23-2023, 07:44 PM

Just out of curiosity what coating do you have?

CarsAndGuitars · 03-23-2023, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

I like to use a bug remover. I have CarPro bugout. An APC can work to.

With a couple fresh coats of sealant/wax and regular hand washes, I have little issue with removing bugs. In the occasion that I do, I also have BugOut

G30M · 03-23-2023, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nettles

Just out of curiosity what coating do you have?

something called GardX

TheMidnightNarwhal · 03-23-2023, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by g21

something called GardX

Is it some kind of dealer provided ceramic coating or you did it yourself or went to a shop?

Forzanerazzurri · 03-23-2023, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

Idk what kind of quality ceramic coating you have but most will resist bird poop yes. Also it doesn't matter much if it just remove an area as you probably already use a as you should topper every once in a while product or maintenance LSP after a wash.

You have to view it literally as a wax/paint sealant that last much longer and will usually have better PH resistances. That's it. When you understand that, it's not snake oil... some people may have tried to tout other benefits that make it seem like it is.

Yes bird poop burns right through Ceramic coating. It's not resistant to bird poop, it's not resistant to scratches it's an overpriced sealant that requires constant maintenance to achieve the claimed longevity. It's snake oil. Just PPF your car.

TheMidnightNarwhal · 03-24-2023, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

Yes bird poop burns right through Ceramic coating. It's not resistant to bird poop, it's not resistant to scratches it's an overpriced sealant that requires constant maintenance to achieve the claimed longevity. It's snake oil. Just PPF your car.

The fact you say to just PPF your car IMO goes to show you don't quite understand the point of ceramic coating. It's not snake oil.

It's like saying don't wax your car just PPF. They just aren't made to serve the same goal.

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