[masd79]

Is there a way to cold start this g90 m5 remotely or thru the key fob? I’m talking about the engine, especially in these cold winter days….

[nordmanmg]

I couldn’t figure it out either. I just go in, and press start and then m1, and let it run to warm up

[ctelimad]

I could not find a way to do it
It does preconditioning silently through the battery but I am using the app not the remote start feature on the key fob

[masd79]

So I wonder if there is no requirement to warm this car up??? I mean if we warm up battery mode and start driving and hit an up hill and the engine just gets a rude awakening… isn’t that bad?

[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by masd79

So I wonder if there is no requirement to warm this car up??? I mean if we warm up battery mode and start driving and hit an up hill and the engine just gets a rude awakening… isn’t that bad?

I was thinking the same today
I initially thought that the batteries will warm us the engine temp...so I checked the oil temp after preconditioning and they were low and the engine did not sound warm on start up
I am sure bmw thought about that
Dono

[7957007]

Originally Posted by nordmanmg

I couldn’t figure it out either. I just go in, and press start and then m1, and let it run to warm up

That si exactly what I am doing every morning. Very annoying.

[7957007]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

I was thinking the same today
I initially thought that the batteries will warm us the engine temp...so I checked the oil temp after preconditioning and they were low and the engine did not sound warm on start up
I am sure bmw thought about that
Dono

For BMW, the car just needs to last for the duration of the warranty, and everything past rhag is really not their concern. So I would not be surprised if they just disregarded that part of the issue…

[Remigijus]

Doesn't this works?

Older infotainment example turning setting on then press 3 times keyfob

[carbonfiber1]

There is a benefit to leaving it on off, if the car is in your garage and you activate pre-conditioning then the car will warm itself up in the winter without starting the engine. Have not tried cooling yet to see if it is AC or just air.

[DS_BMW]

Why not just use the app?

[TaBzK]

Warm up the interior cabin in E-mode only it looks like. Hit M1 and wait 20-30 seconds for the RPMs to drop. Not a big deal. Doesn't require a lengthy warmup for the engine.

[masd79]

Originally Posted by Remigijus

Doesn't this works? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPKC9D1SmwA

Older infotainment example turning setting on then press 3 times keyfob https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jkhQnMANHQ

Nope, it doesn’t do anything. After doing some research I’m hearing it’s because of EU idling regulations. This is basically a EV with an engine. I don’t mind, it’s just annoying

[Alan l.]

Originally Posted by masd79

So I wonder if there is no requirement to warm this car up??? I mean if we warm up battery mode and start driving and hit an up hill and the engine just gets a rude awakening… isn’t that bad?

I was thinking about this as well. Not only first time driving it in the morning but if the engine shuts off for a extended period of time while light cruising on the highway where the oil temps are low wouldn't it be bad for the engine to kick on immediately into high rpms if you need the power to pass?

Does the manual mention anything about warm up?

If BMW is somehow warming up the oil and getting it circulating even while the engine is off then I could see this being a non issue longevity wise. I just don't see how they can run the oil pump which is usually driven by the engine.

Alan

[ASAP]

I could be wrong but from my recollection... no BMW hybrid nor partial EV gets remote start... the X5 50 and 45e don't either... they may get pre conditioning which is different but this doesn't turn on the engine... sadly this means you can't listen to the roar of the exist on startup outside.

[Crazy1323]

Originally Posted by ASAP

I could be wrong but from my recollection... no BMW hybrid nor partial EV gets remote start... the X5 50 and 45e don't either... they may get pre conditioning which is different but this doesn't turn on the engine... sadly this means you can't listen to the roar of the exist on startup outside.

Does preconditioning warm cool the cabin and the batteries, or just the batteries?

[Cannondale900]

Originally Posted by Crazy1323

Does preconditioning warm cool the cabin and the batteries, or just the batteries?

Cabin conditions. It's really nice....have it on our X5 45e. Wife loves it.

[masd79]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

I was thinking about this as well. Not only first time driving it in the morning but if the engine shuts off for a extended period of time while light cruising on the highway where the oil temps are low wouldn't it be bad for the engine to kick on immediately into high rpms if you need the power to pass?

Does the manual mention anything about warm up?

If BMW is somehow warming up the oil and getting it circulating even while the engine is off then I could see this being a non issue longevity wise. I just don't see how they can run the oil pump which is usually driven by the engine.

Alan

That’s the million dollar question. I’m sure it’s not overlooked by engineers at bmw

[TXSchnee]

The main issue with running a PHEV in hybrid when the engine isn't at full operating temps is it causes fuel injectors to clog and go bad. Happened on my '20 Cayenne E Hybrid, was still in warranty, would have been a $2700 hit if paying out of pocket. On my '25 XM I use cabin preconditioning, and yes it runs the AC in the summer and heat in the winter, then drive in M2 settings until the engine is warmed up (currently running in E Control as I haven't quite hit 1,200 miles on the '25 XM). Doing the same thing on my '24 Cayenne S E Hybrid, no issues doing this in either vehicle.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by ASAP

I could be wrong but from my recollection... no BMW hybrid nor partial EV gets remote start... the X5 50 and 45e don't either... they may get pre conditioning which is different but this doesn't turn on the engine... sadly this means you can't listen to the roar of the exist on startup outside.

Correct no bmw hybrid gets this function. If you want to warm the car, have to use the battery or physical start the car then lock it.

I asked the same thing when I got my XM.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by Crazy1323

Does preconditioning warm cool the cabin and the batteries, or just the batteries?

Both, it will depend on how you have it set up in the app on what you want the system to do.

Additionally it will do it while you charge and the vehicle is plugged in if you have times set.

[DS_BMW]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Correct no bmw hybrid gets this function. If you want to warm the car, have to use the battery or physical start the car then lock it.

I asked the same thing when I got my XM.

Thats pretty dumb you can't remote start the car.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by DS_BMW

Thats pretty dumb you can't remote start the car.

Agree but emissions and probably some credit they get. To be honest off the EV side it will run for 30mins and the interior warms up/cools down pretty fast in the XM. So the m5 likely is no different as its 2.0 and probably does it better.


Modern motors warm up pretty fast anyways