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      10-19-2009, 05:29 PM   #1
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The Law.

Alright I had this question for a long time and no one could seem to have answered it.

Ok, so you are speeding in "Town A" is it possible for a cop from "Town B" to pull you over and give you a ticket?


also, if you do get a speeding ticket does the officer have to show you your speed on the speedometer thing?

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      10-19-2009, 05:32 PM   #2
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To be honest with you, When dealing with cops they will try to bend as many laws possible to get you. That cop can pull you over, but he cant get give you a ticket, so while you are pulled over he will call over another cop to issue you your summons.To answer your second question. No they don't have to show you their speedometer, But their radar must be calibrated you can request to make sure it was calibrated.
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      10-19-2009, 05:33 PM   #3
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If cited for a ticket in Town B by a Cop from Town A. I dont think the cop would go through the hassle of going to court if you fight the violation.
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      10-19-2009, 05:33 PM   #4
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Don't know about the jurisdiction question, but no the cop isn't legally required to show you the speed on the radar right there and then. You can challenge it in court.
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      10-19-2009, 05:58 PM   #5
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ohh i almost forgot, can a cop give you a ticket if he just eyed you speeding. (meaning he didnt not radar you)
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ohh i almost forgot, can a cop give you a ticket if he just eyed you speeding. (meaning he didnt not radar you)
Yes, officers are trained to judge speed by eyesight or can just pace you. Radar/Laser is not a requirement.
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      10-19-2009, 06:12 PM   #7
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First off - this is way off topic.

Second - depending on their interagency agreements they may, or may not, ticket you. It really depends on the state(s) involved. The old notion of state troopers not being able to chase you over state lines is long gone - again, based upon their interagency agreements.

Third - there is no requirement for a cop to use anything to write you up for a violation. You have the right (albeit it might cost you more) to your day in court where you can play Rumpole to your heart's content.

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First off - this is way off topic.

Second - depending on their interagency agreements they may, or may not, ticket you. It really depends on the state(s) involved. The old notion of state troopers not being able to chase you over state lines is long gone - again, based upon their interagency agreements.

Third - there is no requirement for a cop to use anything to write you up for a violation. You have the right (albeit it might cost you more) to your day in court where you can play Rumpole to your heart's content.

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friend of mine in the LAPD said that cops are more likely to show up to court because it is MUCH more paperwork and a hassle for them if they DON'T show..
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friend of mine in the LAPD said that cops are more likely to show up to court because it is MUCH more paperwork and a hassle for them if they DON'T show..
Plus, they get paid to just go to court lol
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My friend was a cop until he got medically discharge because of an injury while he was on duty. But he did mention to me that there is a jurisdiction until you break the law, and then they can chase you down to hell. Speeding would be breaking the law? So he can technically write you a speeding ticket.
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Most city or municipal police officers are glorified revenue collectors who have no other job than to give out enough BS tickets to justify their $12/hour salary and will do anything they can to make it happen. I know this sounds harsh and I have nothing but respect for state troopers and others that actually take seriously their responsibility to protect the rest of us. But around here, we have over 100 municipalities. Some of them are no more than several blocks across. The only thing the police in a municipality of 3,000 people do is set speed traps which collect revenue which pay their salaries which allow more speed traps. The cops in one of them were caught several years ago manipulating traffic signals so they could give tickets for running red lights. Its a joke and I've gotten tired of it.

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This varies by states, most state have a law that say that police form any "political" boundary can enforce state laws in any part of the state except where they are precluded form doing so, such as State control highways where only State Police have jurisdiction.

If it is state level law then any police officer within the state can enforce those laws anywhere in that state. However if it a local law like parking violation then only the police within those political boundary which wrote the law can enforce those laws.

Lastly, police can cross boundary to pursue someone during the commission of the crime, and this again assume the state wrote this into law, which most have and they can also cross state boundary many time since many states have agreement with one another.

The simple answer is it depend on your state and what they wrote into their laws, but mostly like it is a safe bet they can ticket you anywhere in the state for speeding.

The only issue is which court has jurisdiction over you at that point. The problem most police run into is their tickets books many times have their home town court pre-printer on the ticket and that court would not have jurisdiction over you since you broke the law in a different town

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Not that I like the idea of defending the guys that prevent me from driving the way I really want to drive...BUT...this broad generalization is complete crap. Not sure what the police in St. Louis do, but in my parts traffic infractions are the least of their concerns. In fact, in western washingon its the state troopers that are the revenue collectors.

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Most city or municipal police officers are glorified revenue collectors who have no other job than to give out enough BS tickets to justify their $12/hour salary and will do anything they can to make it happen. I know this sounds harsh and I have nothing but respect for state troopers and others that actually take seriously their responsibility to protect the rest of us. But around here, we have over 100 municipalities. Some of them are no more than several blocks across. The only thing the police in a municipality of 3,000 people do is set speed traps which collect revenue which pay their salaries which allow more speed traps. The cops in one of them were caught several years ago manipulating traffic signals so they could give tickets for running red lights. Its a joke and I've gotten tired of it.

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      10-21-2009, 03:18 PM   #18
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Not that I like the idea of defending the guys that prevent me from driving the way I really want to drive...BUT...this broad generalization is complete crap. Not sure what the police in St. Louis do, but in my parts traffic infractions are the least of their concerns. In fact, in western washingon its the state troopers that are the revenue collectors.
My experience is that our highway patrol usually require more than just speeding a few miles over the limit to pull you over, and even then let you go with a warning unless they really think you are doing something dangerous. The exception might be holiday weekend speed traps. Maybe other states are different.

My problem is places like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_Villa,_Missouri

Bella Villa is a municipality in St. Louis County, just south of the city. Population of 687. Total area is 0.1 square miles. In 2005, Bella Villa gave out the second most tickets in the state of Missouri and derived 59% of its revenue from traffic citations. Obviously, the problem is more than just the police to allow this type of situation to exist, but this area is dotted with lots of municipalities like this. These types of cops are the worst you can encounter IMO.
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