Must See!!!!!

just4kickz · 11-16-2006, 08:12 PM

1st. READ:
http://dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=38958

2nd. WATCH:

....yesterday night @ UCLA... wow... i mean shit... maybe the guy could be less of a dumbass and just comply... but the popo were using EXCESSIVE fuqjsdlkjkfssjdf force... I mean how many stupid cops does it take to passify one guy? cuff the hands, cuff the legs, cuff the 2 cuffs together and there you go... where the hell is the guy gonna go? exactly... giving power to those who don't know how to improvise and react against an opposing force in a humane way is insanely stupid. :mad: :mad:

btw on a funny note... to the guy who got tazed... YOU NOT BERKELEY!

Brunotheboxer · 11-16-2006, 08:19 PM

was that wwealcoholic?

CA06 · 11-16-2006, 08:21 PM

A cops job is never easy, but that sounds pretty darn disturbing.

Ninjaneer · 11-16-2006, 08:23 PM

I lost count of how many times the psycho cop said "stand up"

Buffalo_Bush · 11-16-2006, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjaneer

I lost count of how many times the psycho cop said "stand up"

he was saying it almost non stop.

isnt is true that campus police are jobs that are offered and held by students?

nine4surfah · 11-16-2006, 09:56 PM

hahahaha....dumbass

just4kickz · 11-16-2006, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by markl323

I wonder if ppl would cry and moan if that guy was actually a terrorist and had bombs in his backpack and he blew up the whole damn library because the cops were too slow to remove him.

...lol tazing should be in defense... not to command obedience

i think cops can taze if you have a possible weapon such as a knife, car, bat or w/e... but i dont think a bookbag counts

DILLIGAF · 11-16-2006, 10:11 PM

why didnt he just stand up and walk out like he was asked instead of being dragged out like a rag doll. He was physically capable of standing up and walking about 15 seconds after it was shut off...its not like you're in a daze for half an hour and need that long to recover from its effects.

Ninjaneer · 11-16-2006, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DILLIGAF

why didnt he just stand up and walk out like he was asked instead of being dragged out like a rag doll. He was physically capable of standing up and walking about 15 seconds after it was shut off...its not like you're in a daze for half an hour and need that long to recover from its effects.

From the article: "The student also told the officers he had a medical condition."

Maybe that's why but who knows... for someone with a condition he sure was able to shout loud after it. The most painful part of that vid is hearing a guy scream/cry like that. 2nd most painful part is seeing how dumb the cops were.

just4kickz · 11-16-2006, 10:33 PM

yeah... i mean you want the cops to be the good guys... but when they do something like this... specially when the guy is iranian... its pretty sad... i mean sure if the guy was a bomber we'd all be like in hindsight he should have been arrested and tazed as he was there... but since he was only a student... its kinda like wow...

nine4surfah · 11-16-2006, 10:48 PM

According to the article,
"At around 11:30 p.m., CSOs asked a male student using a computer in the back of the room to leave when he was unable to produce a BruinCard during a random check. The student did not exit the building immediately."

I'm assuming that it is campus policy to provide student ID when using university equipment and that random checks will be conducted to assure that only students have access. No ID, no access. If the student "victim" would had left the premises as directed by the "CSO" then the campus police would had never gotten involved and no one would had been "tazed".

bimmer4me · 11-16-2006, 10:53 PM

The disobedient kid was stupid for not complying to the cops. The cops should have been smarter about the situation and just dragged the kid away from the scene and arrested him. No reason to potentially start a riot because some kid doesn't want to stand up. At least that's the way it appears to me now knowing almost nothing about the situation.

just4kickz · 11-16-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nine4surfah

According to the article,
"At around 11:30 p.m., CSOs asked a male student using a computer in the back of the room to leave when he was unable to produce a BruinCard during a random check. The student did not exit the building immediately."

I'm assuming that it is campus policy to provide student ID when using university equipment and that random checks will be conducted to assure that only students have access. No ID, no access. If the student "victim" would had left the premises as directed by the "CSO" then the campus police would had never gotten involved and no one would had been "tazed".

so are you setting the "not having an ID and not leaving the computers -> being tazed" as a standard? i dont think its a fair protocol at all...

if there was a sign that said "if you dont follow UCPD, you will be tazed" i sure as hell wouldnt go on campus more than i needed to...

ksfrogman · 11-16-2006, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by just4kickz

...lol tazing should be in defense... not to command obedience

i think cops can taze if you have a possible weapon such as a knife, car, bat or w/e... but i dont think a bookbag counts

Those officers are such asses. Someone should tie their nuts together and taze them.

nine4surfah · 11-16-2006, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by just4kickz

so are you setting the "not having an ID and not leaving the computers -> being tazed" as a standard? i dont think its a fair protocol at all...

if there was a sign that said "if you dont follow UCPD, you will be tazed" i sure as hell wouldnt go on campus more than i needed to...

I believe that the use of tazers in this situation was too excessive and that if two "ideal" officers had handled the situation the outcome may had been different. My point is that if the student wasn't being such an ass and simply showed his id or simply leave the library then the situation would had never escalated.

just4kickz · 11-17-2006, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nine4surfah

I believe that the use of tazers in this situation was too excessive and that if two "ideal" officers had handled the situation the outcome may had been different. My point is that if the student wasn't being such an ass and simply showed his id or simply leave the library then the situation would had never escalated.

true

Driv3r · 11-17-2006, 12:21 AM

wow, seeing that, and if that kid would have been my friend i would have told one of those bastard "if you didnt have that badge on youd have your teeth knocked out" .

I dont know why but that video got my blood boiling...This system doesnt work, in other countries there is small briberies, in this one there is the abuse of power...which one is worst? i beleive its about the same...

what bastards...

longtran · 11-17-2006, 12:39 AM

i smell a lawsuit soon.

uhaulball · 11-17-2006, 12:43 AM

wow... talk about power going to someone's head. that is the definition of excessive force. if it was just one police officer i wouldve picked up a chair and knocked the teeth outta the cop and pick up his tazer and taze him and leave the building.

shragon · 11-17-2006, 02:39 AM

news report:

shragon · 11-17-2006, 02:42 AM

guy was probably an ass, but looks like excessive force to me. the cops should have done a lot better job trying to control the situation.

E91 Dude · 11-18-2006, 06:21 AM

In the news report, the suspect was 23 year old Mustafa Tobatabiynajob (sp?). That name sounds Indian/Middle Eastern to me, so maybe he was yelling about the Patriot Act to try to garner guilt and get off the hook. His screaming/crying was pretty pathetic. And even though he kept saying he would leave, he didn't seem to want to do anything besides yell at the top of his lungs. Granted, he may have had a medical condition as he claimed, but that sure didn't stop him from screaming and kicking like a child.

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bimmer4me Captain 56 Rep 996 Posts Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Northern Virginia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	The disobedient kid was stupid for not complying to the cops. The cops should have been smarter about the situation and just dragged the kid away from the scene and arrested him. No reason to potentially start a riot because some kid doesn't want to stand up. At least that's the way it appears to me now knowing almost nothing about the situation. __________________ 2006 330i Monaco Blue \| Grey \| Walnut ...Manual \| Sports \| Premium \| Cold \| Nav \| Comfort Access \| PDC \| Sirius \| Sunshade ...M-Tec Steering Wheel \| M-Tec Shifter \| TLC ...Performance Center Delivery \| Oct 14, 2005
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uhaulball Brigadier General 197 Rep 4,163 Posts Drives: e90 330xi Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (11)	wow... talk about power going to someone's head. that is the definition of excessive force. if it was just one police officer i wouldve picked up a chair and knocked the teeth outta the cop and pick up his tazer and taze him and leave the building. __________________ '06 bsm e90 330xi : 18" VMR CSL : KW V3 : GruppeM Rep Intake : UUC/Corsa Catback : Hartge Lip : ACS Roof Spoiler OEM CF Trunk Spoiler : CF Emblems. Pillars. Mirror. Grille : LUXER12 led plate : V1 Hardwired : OG.longtran e90post sticker! circa 2005
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shragon Moderator 508 Rep 27,440 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (7)	guy was probably an ass, but looks like excessive force to me. the cops should have done a lot better job trying to control the situation. __________________ www.cardomain.com/id/shragon
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E91 Dude First Lieutenant 54 Rep 318 Posts Drives: Car Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Location iTrader: (2)	In the news report, the suspect was 23 year old Mustafa Tobatabiynajob (sp?). That name sounds Indian/Middle Eastern to me, so maybe he was yelling about the Patriot Act to try to garner guilt and get off the hook. His screaming/crying was pretty pathetic. And even though he kept saying he would leave, he didn't seem to want to do anything besides yell at the top of his lungs. Granted, he may have had a medical condition as he claimed, but that sure didn't stop him from screaming and kicking like a child.
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