[My335iTT]

Originally Posted by MARIO K

I wish I got a hooker for my 18th

I will pass on getting dem aids

[zgood4u]

Just read the driver of this car died this morning. What a waste.

[US///M3]

Originally Posted by Maestro

This is the point, I grew up on Muscle cars with lots horsepower, however the difference today than then is those old Muscle cars suck to drive, going above 60MPH they shock and rattle and you know you were about to die if you did something stupid. Today cars go a lot faster and drive smooth and you have no idea your about to die because the line between in control and out of control is very thin.

An old muscle car is less prone to burst into flames on impact like a Ferrari/Lambo or split in half. An old muscle car built like a tank also provides the safety of a roll cage and will lose control at a much lower speed,preventing an even more serious wreck.

[F1Senna]

Originally Posted by zgood4u

Just read the driver of this car died this morning. What a waste.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2222733/Ferrari-crash-Akshay-Panducherry-dies-injuries-sustained-high-speed-crash.html

[Small Yellow]

I always get the idea that sports cars are safer than regular car if driven like a regular car. Sports cars are less likely to go out of control and theyre made for speed. It really does comes down to the driver's maturity and responsibility. A driver can take nearly any car over 120 and we all know at 120 it is very dangerous in an accident AND at 120 I am sure a sports car will be more stable than a regular econo car. Sports cars are also built safer imo (not really sure correct me if I am wrong) because theyre meant to be driven at high speeds and the manufacture has to make them safe for a higher amount of speed. Sports cars are also easier to control in the case you need to dodge an accident or something that came unexpectedly on the road. If you drive an econo car and that happens you may get a lot of body roll and lose control. So my view is that it really is the driver's maturity level not a problem with the car. You can go 120 in almost any car but if I am on the road and an idiot wants to shoot past me at 120 I really hope it isnt an econo car... This only happens if the driver is responsible and dont floor a sports car from light to light etc... you guys know what I mean...

[Wolf]

Originally Posted by My335iTT

My birthday presents suck balls

Touche my friend... I didn't see that one coming

[DieselDiner]

The stretch of road on which this occurred is a seemingly harmless area...if traveling at a reasonable rate of speed. I drive by the scene of the accident almost daily, and it's not a tough drive at all. It's a long downhill (slight grade), with a slight curve followed by a small bridge. At 'normal' speeds, it's very unremarkable. However, there is definitely a slight bump on either side of the bridge at the transition from the pavement to the bridge deck.

Looking at the location of the skid marks and the damage off the road, it's apparent that the transitions from the pavement to the bridge deck are what ultimately caused the car to become unstable. This guy had to be absolutely flying for the car to lose its traction so suddenly, and for the skid marks the car made prior to leaving the road. I think perhaps any car could have lost control at that location on the road, but I doubt that most people would attempt to get the speed the Ferrari must have attained on that stretch of road.

[youngnastyman]

I actually feel bad for the parents. I'm sure that guy's dad thought he was the best parent in the world only to see a week later that he gave his son a 200mph death trap.

Stupid kids.

[Maestro]

Originally Posted by US///M3

An old muscle car is less prone to burst into flames on impact like a Ferrari/Lambo or split in half. An old muscle car built like a tank also provides the safety of a roll cage and will lose control at a much lower speed,preventing an even more serious wreck.

Not True, Yes built like tanks but you are more likely to die in them, trust me I lost two high school friends in a freak accident as they fail to judge a bend and the car left the road and smashed in to a stack of junk cars in a junk yard. They dies on impact, they were estimated at going about 60 on a back road. They were missing for a week, no one knew what happen to them, until employees of the junk yard found the car upside down in the yard, They though one of the junkers fell from the stack of cars only to find the boys dead in the car. I also seen my fair share of muscle cars rip apart from accidents.

Yes a Muscle car could top over 100MPH but driving over 100MPH was a scary as hell, and any wrong movement or unexpected road condition change could send the car out of control. A few times I found myself sideways in the road fighting to regain control of the car and I was only going 40 or 50 at the time.

To your point a modern car will protect you well in slow speed accidents, but they are also design to go well over a 100MPH having an accident at those speeds will kill you many time as well. The cars today with all the modern stability systems keep most people safe and minimize the really bad accidents. But good driving skills can do the same thing.

I heard starting in 2014 the EU is requiring all new cars sold must have stability control systems to help prevent accidents. Honesty, I think this is a bad thing since it removes the driver from understanding what it take to control a car.

I consider myself lucky that I never had a bad accident and the one I did have was cause by poor road design and weather conditions. Even today's cars would not have prevented it. Because of the cars I grew up on, and the fact I learned how to defensive drive I understand the limitations of a car. Plus I spent time in a very large parking lot doing spin outs and learning how to self correct a car that is out of control.

[US///M3]

Originally Posted by Maestro

Not True, Yes built like tanks but you are more likely to die in them, trust me I lost two high school friends in a freak accident as they fail to judge a bend and the car left the road and smashed in to a stack of junk cars in a junk yard. They dies on impact, they were estimated at going about 60 on a back road. They were missing for a week, no one knew what happen to them, until employees of the junk yard found the car upside down in the yard, They though one of the junkers fell from the stack of cars only to find the boys dead in the car. I also seen my fair share of muscle cars rip apart from accidents.

Yes a Muscle car could top over 100MPH but driving over 100MPH was a scary as hell, and any wrong movement or unexpected road condition change could send the car out of control. A few times I found myself sideways in the road fighting to regain control of the car and I was only going 40 or 50 at the time.

To your point a modern car will protect you well in slow speed accidents, but they are also design to go well over a 100MPH having an accident at those speeds will kill you many time as well. The cars today with all the modern stability systems keep most people safe and minimize the really bad accidents. But good driving skills can do the same thing.

I heard starting in 2014 the EU is requiring all new cars sold must have stability control systems to help prevent accidents. Honesty, I think this is a bad thing since it removes the driver from understanding what it take to control a car.

I consider myself lucky that I never had a bad accident and the one I did have was cause by poor road design and weather conditions. Even today's cars would not have prevented it. Because of the cars I grew up on, and the fact I learned how to defensive drive I understand the limitations of a car. Plus I spent time in a very large parking lot doing spin outs and learning how to self correct a car that is out of control.

I think they died from burns suffered after the accident. Exotics especially Italians are prone to catch on fire in a wreck.
You're most likely to survive a 100 mph wreck in a F10 M5 than in a Ferrari.

[MStar]

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