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      11-06-2012, 09:49 AM   #1
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House question: double glazed windows with moisture in the glazing

Hi, firstly - apologies .... this is definitely not a glamorous thread :

I have a UPVC double glazed door and windows that lead out to decking in my back garden.

Four of these glazed panels (out of 12), including the bottom panel of the door, have moisture between the glazing.

The panels are otherwise clean and structurally sound.

I was wanting to see if anyone knows;

(1) Is there a way to easily remove the moisture between the two glass layers (and prevent it from coming back)

(2) If the above is not possible, does anyone know if it is possible to pop the individual panel out and replace this.

If anyone has any links to a decent DIY site, that covers this type of thing ... that would be great.

I would like to avoid completely replacing the door and windows, as other than the moisture in these four panels, they are sound.

Thanks for reading .... cheers
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      11-06-2012, 10:01 AM   #2
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from the sounds of it, its not sealed properly. youll need to remove one of the windows, clear it up, and seal it properly.
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The failed windows need to be replaced.
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How old are the windows? Brand?

Wait for the sun to dry out the moisture, then use window clear caulking and seal the entire outside of the window and inside perimeter where the glass touches the frame.

It took me a few years to realize that its worth it to buy the best windows you can afford.
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+1 on full replacement.
Most of the time they will stay hazy and not dry out.
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How old are the windows? Brand?

Wait for the sun to dry out the moisture, then use window clear caulking and seal the entire outside of the window and inside perimeter where the glass touches the frame.

It took me a few years to realize that its worth it to buy the best windows you can afford.
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+1 on full replacement.
Most of the time they will stay hazy and not dry out.
While this may be the case - it's certainly cheaper to let the sun bake on the windows in hopes that it will dry them out and then seal them up.

Windows aren't cheap so definitely worth a try first!
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Hi, firstly - apologies .... this is definitely not a glamorous thread :

I have a UPVC double glazed door and windows that lead out to decking in my back garden.

Four of these glazed panels (out of 12), including the bottom panel of the door, have moisture between the glazing.

The panels are otherwise clean and structurally sound.

I was wanting to see if anyone knows;

(1) Is there a way to easily remove the moisture between the two glass layers (and prevent it from coming back)

(2) If the above is not possible, does anyone know if it is possible to pop the individual panel out and replace this.

If anyone has any links to a decent DIY site, that covers this type of thing ... that would be great.

I would like to avoid completely replacing the door and windows, as other than the moisture in these four panels, they are sound.

Thanks for reading .... cheers
The window seals are bad. You have 2 options. UPVC windows/doors are over all low cost but hold up to bad weather elements, however they are still on the cheaper end and quality can be lacking. Most track homes, apartments etc have them. I am biased here since I built my home and chose to go with aluminum windows and wood doors.

If you reseal it, its safe to assume if your windows had argon gas in them, and it has all leaked out. You can reseal them and hope the moisture doesnt come back.

Next you can replace the door/windows with dual glaze windows. I would go with windows with a Low E coating and argon gas. That will reduce a lot of solar heat. The better quality windows and doors have made a huge improvement on my A/C costs. This can matter depending what climate you live it. It pays to buy the higher quality ones. If you are in a damp climate metal clad or aluminum would make most sense. Wood doors would not be advisable in certain climates.
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The primary seals have failed. Seek your warranty coverage.
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Thanks for the responses.

The Windows have been like this for over 3 years - since I bought the house. They are not going to dry out of their own accord - unfortunately.

On closer inspection, I think it is more like 5 to 6 panels.

I've decided to get the whole set of rear windows replaced. I may get a set of double doors installed, as opposed to the current single door. A better option I think, as it leads out onto decking.

Thanks again for the input ...
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