Got a ticket this morning, should I go to court??

Sedan_Clan · 10-10-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by asdflkijd

bleh not here to argue. lol but yeah ill figure something out..

Best of luck to you man.

3onDubs · 10-10-2007, 04:29 PM

You shouldn't give in to pressure....tear that b!tch up and be like "AHHHH.....WHAT!"

asdflkijd · 10-10-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 3onDubs

You shouldn't give in to pressure....tear that b!tch up and be like "AHHHH.....WHAT!"

rofl

bigslickak · 10-10-2007, 04:57 PM

I feel for you man, but you were speeding AND it was raining.

It is going to be hard to fight this since even if you say you were going the speed limit he could claim that your speed was unsafe for the conditions (rain).

Nyulak · 10-10-2007, 05:13 PM

I've driven in Ohio weather, where it snows and snows and snows...

Either way, you were speeding, it was wet, and you passed on the right. You could plead not guilty, go to a trial and talk to the prosecutor. You can often get the prosecutor to lower the fine for you without the need of a lawyer. If you get a lawyer, be sure the amount you spend works out to be less than the increase on your insurance premiums.

scottp999 · 10-10-2007, 05:25 PM

Only option is to plead guilty and ask the judge for probation. If you have other violations you might as well just pay it through the mail then waste your time going to court.

Very small chance the officer won't show, but if he is there don't plead not guilty because the next thing the judge will ask you is if you are calling the sworn officer a liar. That does not work out too well. I have watched people try many things several times while I sat quietly waiting to plead guilty and ask for probation, which I knew I would get with no other violations in the last 3 years.

Nyulak · 10-10-2007, 05:27 PM

Nah, you don't have to call the officer a liar, just state that you believe the officer to be mistaken. The onus of proof is on the officer.

Officers will often show on their day off, because they get paid overtime to sit and watch you squirm. The one time I secured a lawyer (had other items attached to ticket that I was contesting) I lucked out and the officer no showed. I had the case dismissed, but I still had to pay the lawyer. Every other ticket I usually waive or plead guilty in court if I have to show.

scottp999 · 10-10-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyulak

Nah, you don't have to call the officer a liar, just state that you believe the officer to be mistaken.

It's the same thing (whether you say it with political correctness or not). The officer is there to prove his ticket was an honest one. Whether you think he is mistaken or a liar, you are saying he is testifying to something that is inaccurate.

If he shows up to court, if the radar gun was certified, and you have other violations in the last 3 years, then good luck, but I don't see it ending well.

Almost all officers take notes about your demeanor during his discussions with you. He will either tell the judge you were polite and cooperative or say you were combative. How do you think it went?

Sam Da Man · 10-10-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyulak

Nah, you don't have to call the officer a liar, just state that you believe the officer to be mistaken. The onus of proof is on the officer.

Officers will often show on their day off, because they get paid overtime to sit and watch you squirm. The one time I secured a lawyer (had other items attached to ticket that I was contesting) I lucked out and the officer no showed. I had the case dismissed, but I still had to pay the lawyer. Every other ticket I usually waive or plead guilty in court if I have to show.

LOL, yea you should of asked to see his radar, and good desicion on going to court.. IHAVE COURT TOMARROW

going 78mph in a 50...but yea dont hire a lawyer, big waste of money just go to court and have a plea agreement with the prosecuter and ur good...no biggy...good luck

E90ice · 10-10-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by asdflkijd

thanks, man ill look into it... I only have one ticket that I lost to in court because it was in a school zone.. yet another trap...

but the other one I got I've gotten a lawyer and won it.

lol..sounds like you need to downgrade to a 325...

ON325i · 10-10-2007, 06:04 PM

i once read somewhere (hearsay hearsay) that you should not request to see the equipment or else the police can declare you read and agree with the reading.

Sedan_Clan · 10-10-2007, 07:15 PM

An officer isn't obligated to show you his radar.

asdflkijd · 10-10-2007, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by E90ice

lol..sounds like you need to downgrade to a 325...

hehe, my foots been a little touchy lately after I had gotten my radar..

Silvr&Blk · 10-12-2007, 01:46 AM

If ur driving record is clean, pay da fine and do traffic school.

If not, you got nuttin to lose and have to fight it. Take da chance that da cop won't show up and you get dismissed (50/50 chance if ur in da big cities) Peep this link for possible arguments: http://www.ticketassassin.com/ Lots of good info there!

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bigslickak Private First Class 5 Rep 134 Posts Drives: 335d sedan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southern California iTrader: (1)	I feel for you man, but you were speeding AND it was raining. It is going to be hard to fight this since even if you say you were going the speed limit he could claim that your speed was unsafe for the conditions (rain).
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scottp999 Brigadier General 136 Rep 4,764 Posts Drives: 4runner SR5 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MD iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 335 [9.00]	Only option is to plead guilty and ask the judge for probation. If you have other violations you might as well just pay it through the mail then waste your time going to court. Very small chance the officer won't show, but if he is there don't plead not guilty because the next thing the judge will ask you is if you are calling the sworn officer a liar. That does not work out too well. I have watched people try many things several times while I sat quietly waiting to plead guilty and ask for probation, which I knew I would get with no other violations in the last 3 years.
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Nyulak Captain 29 Rep 957 Posts Drives: 2022 X3 M40i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SheffVill, OH iTrader: (4) Garage List 2009 BMW 535xi [10.00]	Nah, you don't have to call the officer a liar, just state that you believe the officer to be mistaken. The onus of proof is on the officer. Officers will often show on their day off, because they get paid overtime to sit and watch you squirm. The one time I secured a lawyer (had other items attached to ticket that I was contesting) I lucked out and the officer no showed. I had the case dismissed, but I still had to pay the lawyer. Every other ticket I usually waive or plead guilty in court if I have to show.
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Sedan_Clan Law Enforcer 27037 Rep 22,718 Posts Drives: '22 Chalk Gray Porsche C2S Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: ..in your rearview!!! iTrader: (26)	An officer isn't obligated to show you his radar.
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Silvr&Blk Private First Class 2 Rep 168 Posts Drives: 2006 E90 330i Jet Blk Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oaktown, Cali iTrader: (0)	If ur driving record is clean, pay da fine and do traffic school. If not, you got nuttin to lose and have to fight it. Take da chance that da cop won't show up and you get dismissed (50/50 chance if ur in da big cities) Peep this link for possible arguments: http://www.ticketassassin.com/ Lots of good info there!
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