[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by Obioban

My 328i loaner was a 2014, so...

Has not yet been confirmed when the cars got the update which is dated 12/13, so it depends on the build date of the 14.

I don't care either way, no need to convince you of anything especially with me myself selling off an F30 without looking back.

But for the greater good, the info is there that the 12/13 update has people MUCH happier with a handful of threads about it.

[skypx]

Originally Posted by lsmkr01

The answer to that question depends on the individual. If you just like the badge to show your friends then you will be happy that now they make a car you can buy. If you liked the sport mentality engineering then you better save up for the exclusive models because the base ones will not check that fun box off. The BMW roundel used to mean you were getting something special. Now only a few cars in the line up are actually special. Its like that car maker who originally set out to make the best drivers cars now is now more interested in selling the most cars. To do this they cater to the mass public. There is nothing special about the mass public. I guess cash really does move everything around...

BMW isn't the only company to follow the dollar, look at Ferrari and Lambo. They used to be ultra exclusive but now they produce so many you need to get a Pagani to be in an exclusive circle of enthusiast owners

This is all with out even mentioning politics and the never ending control they try to impose on the people (car company very included) in a false effort of looking out "for your own good" . Which reminds me its been really chilly in the US this year. I better do my part to help with "global warming" speed up summers arrival and drive my M

Well said! Thank you!

[r3dbimmer89]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Its the complete opposite in Europe.

Why is that? Is the suspension tuning different for the Euro market? It's that why both the F3o and F32 fall a little behind the competition in the states but rapes the competition in Europe.

[BlueMeenie]

There is just too much up and coming competition. I would say the e46 seemed like a better car.. but I am having the same issues at 60k miles with the e92 that I had with the e46.. Oil Valve Cover Gaskets... the worst!