[Diver]

http://consumerist.com/2015/10/27/co...s-for-science/

I am not sure exactly what this means for tuners. It is clear that software modifications resulting in increased emissions are prohibited. As far as more boost pressure, I don't know, but it looks like the door is open here.

[DrtyJrze]

Did anyone see this?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/...cid=fbmsnautos

I'm not a true techie, but this change will affect engine tunes, correct?

[TheFlyingMouse]

Cool.

I wonder how this will play with the C.A.R.B requirements over here in CA. Technically you are forbidden from modifying any emissions related components in the vehicle, and that would include ECU programs (tunes).

That seems to be separate from what was mentioned in the article. Manufacturers would not be allowed to run encryption/lockout by digital signing in their software because that would stop you from modifying it, but it would still be illegal for you to alter the programs in a way that conflicts with emissions laws.

[s0ul]

So does this mean Dinan can make use of this?

[Racer20]

This likely doesn't change much . . . There will still be encryption, it just won't be illegal to break it.

[DrtyJrze]

Originally Posted by Racer20

This likely doesn't change much . . . There will still be encryption, it just won't be illegal to break it.

But I thought the purpose of this change was to allow people to fix their own vehicles vs having to go to dealers?

If it's still encrypted that would defeat the point.

[rocket_science]

From the way I read it, all performance tune related activities will still be an issue because performance tunes are an impact to EPA regulations due to increased emissions...

"...and where such circumvention does not constitute a violation of applicable law, including without limitation regulations promulgated by the Department of Transportation or the Environmental Protection Agency"

[48Laws]

Tuning companies clearly have no D.C. lobbyists. Smh

[David70]

I can't tell if they are saying it is now legal to do it or the car maker has to make it easier to do it. If they just said "it is no longer illegal to get into the software" it wouldn't change much.

[kawasaki00]

Here is he actual ruling

http://copyright.gov/1201/2015/fedre...spectionFR.pdf

[David70]

Originally Posted by kawasaki00

Here is he actual ruling

http://copyright.gov/1201/2015/fedre...spectionFR.pdf

Interested but not 81 page ruling interested. Someone want to read it and tell us what they think it says?

[Diver]

It's clear that software may be hacked for repair purposes, but not to defeat safety, fuel efficiency or emissions. I would argue if the software was hacked by someone for allowed purposes, it could fall into the hands of someone who decides to put in a different boost profile.

[Nitrousbird]

Originally Posted by s0ul

So does this mean Dinan can make use of this?

What, so they can sell over priced and underperforming tunes under their "prestigious" name?