05-22-2019, 09:47 AM | #1 |
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BMW quitting WEC after Le Mans 2019
BMW has announced they are quitting WEC after Le Mans 2019. They are last in the championship and the only marque to not have won a race. I hope this means they have realized BMW is far from the avenues that made it successful with previous cars and will hopefully get back to actually racing instead of just marketing. The M8 has underperformed and I will give them credit for pulling the plug at a fairly early stage instead of continuing to limp around at the back of the pack. The previous M6 was somewhat competitive, had a few race wins, but was still not a championship winning car. The Z4 before that was similar. It had circuits that it was better suited for, but was not an all around race-winning car. The e92 M3 was the last great sports car that BMW produced winning the ALMS championship in 2011 and racking up multiple race wins. Instead of producing a new model to market on the race track every few years, maybe they should actually try sticking to a single model and evolving/developing the model for racing.
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BMW Officially Ends WEC Program; M8 GTLM to Continue in IMSA
Better pay for the LeMans live stream this year, because it might be the last time you see BMW race there for a while. Thankfully they're sticking with their North American program in IMSA. If you read between the lines, it's pretty clear that Marquardt prefers the way IMSA has run their program.
I'm kind of torn on the situation. One one hand I'll be sad to see BMW absent from LeMans (yet again), but on the other hand I understand where WEC is coming from. There is grumbling in IMSA GTLM about certain cars (*cough* Ford GT *cough*) being heavily BoP'd, because the M8 GTE is unable to increase their pace. It's not entirely fair to the field that the envelope is being pinned back by certain competitors. I mean, look at how close GT3 has come to GTE. In BoP'd series, there's always going to be a back-of-the-class. What sucks is that BMW was already there with the M6 GTLM, and when they introduced the M8 GTE, things didn't get much better. Part of me wants to see BMW step it up and field a GTE car based on the i8. Everyone is quick to point out that the i8 is a hybrid, that it'd be expensive, and a litany of other reasons. But Porsche managed to figure it out a car with the engine in the wrong place and Acura races the NSX sans-hybrid. Why can't BMW find a way to field a competitive mid-engine race car that can more than meet the minimum requirements? I know they can; it's frustrating that they won't. https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...er-one-season/ Quote:
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05-22-2019, 08:57 PM | #4 |
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they cant stick with a single model car, model lines are changing quite fast in recent years.. there is no point to make ad basically for an older car..
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05-22-2019, 11:15 PM | #5 |
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I'm pretty disappointed. The M6/M8 are big cars sure and that comes with drag that hurts top speed but it also comes with a natural driving style, easy to drive at the limit, and well less likely to be involved in an incident.
Personally I hope BMW is less worried about the M6/M8 and more annoyed with WEC. The races are empty and obviously WEC BoP isn't doing BMW any favors. I really only watch at this point for BMW M8. P1 is dead and GT AM is a bit lacking. But in my mind the M6/M8 V8s are excellent race engines on an excellent platform. They won't win easily on mulsanne straight but when the weather gets crazy thé Big chassis is the one to be in and they really are super easy to drive compare to a 911 or Lambo or the old Z4. Daytona 24 hour win is a big deal and I really would like to see M8 live a full life in GTE/GTLM. Hopefully this decision is reconsidered after the next year season is over and WEC has proper top class racing again. BMW should be at Le Mans. I do wonder if the M8 will get a GT3 treatment or if they will opt for M4? M240i race M4 DTM M6 GT3 M8 GTE. M6 is oop and M4 soon will be replaced. M240i is essentially brand new. Z4 was apparently denied the wavers by IMSA/wec competitors to be the next GT car so I doubt we see it. |
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05-23-2019, 11:50 AM | #6 |
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The new M4 GT4 is doing well here in the US. I'm not sure if it is being run anywhere else. The M6 GT3 seems to struggle in the Blancpain Series that I've seen. I'd like to see a return to the M4 in GT3 trim and then hopefully BMW can get the M8 to work in the GTE trim.
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05-24-2019, 12:35 PM | #7 |
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I have to backpedal a bit on what I said earlier. I'm not sure going mid-engine is the right path for BMW. Historically, they only did that once (M1 Procar), and as much as I'm grateful for it, it ended up being a sideshow.
I think we're reaching a breaking point in motorsports on multiple fronts. If we look back at motorsports history, we see that racing adapts to the broader environment. There's a cycle of progress, punctuated by implosions as series collapse under their own weight (cost). What is salvaged from the rubble is usually a less potent version of what came before. Then the cycle starts over again. What tension/breakage do we see today? LMP1, for sure. The cost of hybridization in sportscars has proven to be too much. It works for F1 because... well, it's F1. I'm not convinced there's room for hybridization down-market from F1 just yet, and I'm also not convinced that's a bad thing. IMSA, PWC, and Blancpain racing is fantastic, and there are no hybrids. Then we have GT-cars. There's building tension as the grid has filled up with mid-engine sportscars whose performance is in an entirely different orbit than an actual grand touring car. I mean, can a 488 GTB really be considered a grand tourer? If you ask me, the M8 is far more of a GT than the 488 GTB. The Aston Martin Vantage, BMW M8/M6, Mercedes AMG GT, and Bentley Continental are examples of honest-to-goodness grand tourers. I feel a class split coming, as I'm not sure sanctioning bodies are going to be able to reconcile these differences forever. The elephant in the room is what effect this will have on the sport as a whole. Adding a new top class for mid-engine supercars (e.g., WEC's maybe-still-born Hypercar) will have repercussions. Everyone wants to race in the top-class, but only a few have the budget. Will BMW even bother to show up if they're not in the top GT class? And what do we do about GT3 and GT4 where mid-engine cars are making inroads as well? There's less grumbling about the cars in these classes being pinned back, but how long will that last? How many manufacturers will show up for the new top class? Hypercar response sure doesn't seem to bode well. I'd really love to be a fly on the wall at FIA or IMSA right about now. There's soooooo much secrecy in motorsport, I feel like we're not going to have answers until after the fact.
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