[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Black Sunshine

Just know if you see a flying Bob's big Boy, it's time to duck.

Mark and Brian really were leaders in MANY fields

[upstatedoc]

there might be a "make up" missle launch tonight i'll keep you posted

[eluded]

Originally Posted by Run Silent

That would be over 21,000mph. I call bullshit. Care to back it up with the Source of this statement?

Just google russia avangard

[Moonbat]

Originally Posted by Black Sunshine

We already have the defenses in place. I'll give you a hint, it's just not sharks with laser beams on their heads. Many other animals have them. Wait, I've said to much. Just know if you see a flying Bob's big Boy, it's time to duck.

Well with a thousand forum members, chances are good we have a few PhD engineers with 25 years experience in missile defense, so I'll take your word for it. I had always wondered why there were more Big Boys stationed in the Western Midwest amongst our ICBM launcher fields. Enough said.

[Captain Blood]

Originally Posted by eluded

Just google russia avangard

What they claim and what it does may be very different. There's a lot of skepticism that it's even operational.

[PoorLurker]

I have 0 insider knowledge of any government entity...

However, I am pretty sure that the highly classified stuff we have would be mind blowing, figuratively and literally.

Like car companies, they can easily come out with a 2021 model that will be mind boggling, however, they need to lead us along with incremental gains in performance, utility, etc.

How long did they have the SR71 before the public found out? reading about computing power and singularity - think about how advanced we've come since those days.

I have no fear of these comments about [insert foreign country] having nukes, long range capability etc.

From a PR perspective - the government probably enjoys these because they create a sense of fear in society's mind allowing them an upper hand. People who have fear are easier to "guide"
GO 'MURICA!

[someguywithanm3]

I'm sure we have some LASER defence system by now.

I wouldn't be surprised if we have powerful weapons in satellites...

But who cares, we'll probably see these new weapons used against Iran before they are ever used against Russia or China.

You should worry about the Chinese printing US dollars and the fact that they have thousands of secret agents in the country....(kidding, maybe)

[bimmer456]

Originally Posted by someguywithanm3

I'm sure we have some LASER defence system by now.

I wouldn't be surprised if we have powerful weapons in satellites...

But who cares, we'll probably see these new weapons used against Iran before they are ever used against Russia or China.

You should worry about the Chinese printing US dollars and the fact that they have thousands of secret agents in the country....(kidding, maybe)

They are spying on us with all the iPhones they make.

[Salty Dog]

Originally Posted by bimmer456

They are spying on us with all the iPhones they make.

Shit!

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Salty Dog

Shit!

Why do you think you keep getting THAT email, about your choice in videos??? I'm not even an acquaintance, and they sent me yours . . .

It's OK, you can blame it on MKSixer, as I figure he and I are the only ones who actually LIKE watching prancercise.

[Salty Dog]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Why do you think you keep getting THAT email, about your choice in videos??? I'm not even an acquaintance, and they sent me yours . . .

It's OK, you can blame it on MKSixer, as I figure he and I are the only ones who actually LIKE watching prancercise.

I'll bet the Chinese are digging the Prancercise.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by Salty Dog

I'll bet the Chinese are digging the Prancercise.

I'm going to get a Hweai or whatever it is phone and play nothing but Prancercise on it. It will be The Prancercise Enlightenment. Amirite, UncleWede ?

[Captain Blood]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

No contest either way.

US vs Russia

https://www.globalfirepower.com/coun...Submit=COMPARE

US vs China

https://www.globalfirepower.com/coun...Submit=COMPARE

I wonder how that has been revised since the Ukraine war started?

[ryan stewart]

Originally Posted by Captain Blood

What they claim and what it does may be very different. There's a lot of skepticism that it's even operational.

They arent. The havent shown a truly maneuverable hypersonic missile, just theory based on the limited capability of the terminal phases of ballistic missiles. At best youre seeing the idea that they are BOTH hypersonic AND maneuverable, just not at the same time. Like putting a booster on a 20 year old frame

And we are seeing right now just how honest the Russian military is.

[ryan stewart]

Originally Posted by Captain Blood

I wonder how that has been revised since the Ukraine war started?

Looking at that the biggest factor is population anyway, which we all know is a farce. Iraq supposedly had the 4th "largest" military in 1991. How did that turn out? The whole "we have more bodies" thing doesnt really hold in the modern military of massive force multipliers. Sure, we wont want a land invasion from the north but who would even do that now?

And China doesn't have modern tech, their best operating carrier is from russia. How would you feel right now if your military was russian? Hell, they are still using ski-jumps. They bought a retired Aussie carrier and are trying to reverse engineer it into a "modern" carrier but haven't even completed that yet, not that they have the planes to launch off of it anyway.

Their entire military is based on reverse engineering other peoples stuff, its the same as all of their other products on the market.

[Captain Blood]

Originally Posted by ryan stewart

Looking at that the biggest factor is population anyway, which we all know is a farce. Iraq supposedly had the 4th "largest" military in 1991. How did that turn out? The whole "we have more bodies" thing doesnt really hold in the modern military of massive force multipliers. Sure, we wont want a land invasion from the north but who would even do that now?

And China doesn't have modern tech, their best operating carrier is from russia. How would you feel right now if your military was russian? Hell, they are still using ski-jumps. They bought a retired Aussie carrier and are trying to reverse engineer it into a "modern" carrier but haven't even completed that yet, not that they have the planes to launch off of it anyway.

Their entire military is based on reverse engineering other peoples stuff, its the same as all of their other products on the market.

Well put, but the Queen Elizabeth carrier I believe also has ski jump ramps

[ryan stewart]

Originally Posted by Captain Blood

Well put, but the Queen Elizabeth carrier I believe also has ski jump ramps

Yes, and they have waffled on fitting catapults and arrestors hoping UAVs are the near future. But lets be honest here, is anyone really considering the Royal Navy a superpower anymore? Really its the US. Im not saying its a good thing we outclass everyone's military 10x over but we basically do in everything but sheer (conceptual) manpower.

Unless they are prepared to use nukes China just isnt anywhere near the military superpower people seem to want to frame them as. Their soft power skills though are quite good. But I think even they know, now seeing how badly their arms supplier is doing, their stick isnt nearly as big as they thought and invading a sovereign nation with an organized defense. One that is wealthy and across water. China would need to move a lot of ass via boat in open water against a country that can afford top flight anti-ship and coastal defenses. The losses for China in an invasion would be huge.

[EezyBeezy]

Originally Posted by UglyBuzzard

Don't believe everything you see on the news. There is the media and there is the truth... especially, in a classified world.
We will be fine...

This, 100%.

Good intel key.

[BMWILUVU]

Originally Posted by ryan stewart

Yes, and they have waffled on fitting catapults and arrestors hoping UAVs are the near future. But lets be honest here, is anyone really considering the Royal Navy a superpower anymore? Really its the US. Im not saying its a good thing we outclass everyone's military 10x over but we basically do in everything but sheer (conceptual) manpower.

Unless they are prepared to use nukes China just isnt anywhere near the military superpower people seem to want to frame them as. Their soft power skills though are quite good. But I think even they know, now seeing how badly their arms supplier is doing, their stick isnt nearly as big as they thought and invading a sovereign nation with an organized defense. One that is wealthy and across water. China would need to move a lot of ass via boat in open water against a country that can afford top flight anti-ship and coastal defenses. The losses for China in an invasion would be huge.

Completely agree that the Chinese military is way over-estimated compared with ours. This does not even factor in the top secret weapons we have in the secret programs.