BMW M5 Forum

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      09-19-2022, 10:15 AM   #1
g80z
Lieutenant
g80z's Avatar
692
REP
503
Posts

Drives: honda civicghini
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Frozen Paint worth extra care if no PPF wrap?

Hi all,


I'm in the process of deciding what spec to finalize for my 23 M3xc. I was wondering if anyone has anything to share on how much effort goes into maintaining, daily driving, and owning a non pffed frozen painted car. I have skyscraper grey currently picked but I really want to go w FPB or the new frozen pure grey. I know I could alway frozen ppf the car but don't want to spend upwards of 8k doing so. I wanted to hear from any owners if it is a true hassle, or not, to own a frozen painted car without ppf.

Thanks!
Appreciate 0
      09-19-2022, 06:45 PM   #2
mileta8
New Member
140
REP
26
Posts

Drives: Bmw M4 G82
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Croatia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by g80z View Post
Hi all,


I'm in the process of deciding what spec to finalize for my 23 M3xc. I was wondering if anyone has anything to share on how much effort goes into maintaining, daily driving, and owning a non pffed frozen painted car. I have skyscraper grey currently picked but I really want to go w FPB or the new frozen pure grey. I know I could alway frozen ppf the car but don't want to spend upwards of 8k doing so. I wanted to hear from any owners if it is a true hassle, or not, to own a frozen painted car without ppf.

Thanks!
I have the frozen black m4. The car looks better than any other color. Unique, special and very atractive. Dirty car doesn't look dirty Like it is, but when you clean it you can see how carefull you should be to not damage the satin finish.
Im going for Full PPF Because damage on the road will be for sure and good repair will be difficult and for sure cost a lot.
I have matte grey rs6 without PPF and today i have a lot of damage from stones. On black color that will be awfull and worse.

If you go for frozen color in my opinion PPF is neccesary!
Appreciate 0
      09-20-2022, 11:02 PM   #3
FISH22
Colonel
FISH22's Avatar
United_States
5,505
REP
2,034
Posts

Drives: G80 M3 Competition
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Chesapeake, VA

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2021 BMW M3C  [10.00]
2011 BMW M3  [10.00]
I've been daily driving my Frozen White G80 for about 17 months, 14k miles, sits outside all the time, sees all sorts of weather, no PPF. I coated the car with a proper matte ceramic when new (Dr Beasleys). While ceramic does not protect against rock chips, it has prevented stains and has kept the frozen finish looking great. Maintenance and upkeep is no different from gloss, this is a misconception. You need a matte soap, don't polish, and that's it.

I drive the piss out of my car, a few small rock chips, but I started enjoying the car and life a lot more once I came to terms with superficial damage like paint chips.

I'm not a fan of PPF. I truly believe it's gimmicky and it ties you into something that you'll be up keeping/replacing down the road.
Appreciate 1
      09-21-2022, 12:33 PM   #4
g80z
Lieutenant
g80z's Avatar
692
REP
503
Posts

Drives: honda civicghini
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
I appreciate the response! Are the chips noticeable? I had a buddy tell me rock chips on satin black turn out white and on white turnout black but idk haha
Appreciate 0
      09-21-2022, 05:57 PM   #5
FISH22
Colonel
FISH22's Avatar
United_States
5,505
REP
2,034
Posts

Drives: G80 M3 Competition
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Chesapeake, VA

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2021 BMW M3C  [10.00]
2011 BMW M3  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by g80z View Post
I appreciate the response! Are the chips noticeable? I had a buddy tell me rock chips on satin black turn out white and on white turnout black but idk haha
Haha that sounds about right. They were noticeable to me at first, but once I hit them with some touch up paint (using a tooth pick), they're very hard to spot. Anyone else would likely struggle to spot them.
Appreciate 0
      09-22-2022, 08:35 PM   #6
brad65ford
Captain
289
REP
802
Posts

Drives: 2022 M3
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: fl

iTrader: (0)

once you have PPF you always want it again. It really protects the from from on coming rock chips big time. Our frozen white has front hood, fenders and bumper down. Love it but had how the edges at times can show more dirt, but worth it imho.
Appreciate 0
      09-25-2022, 12:57 AM   #7
Forzanerazzurri
Banned
6,991
REP
3,275
Posts

Drives: E46 M3 Coupe/G80 M3CX
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Alberta

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
PPF makes driving alot less stressful for those who want to keep the car looking new. No way I would spend this much on a car and not have full PPF. Also saying that matte paint maintenance is no different from gloss is just wrong.
Appreciate 0
      09-25-2022, 08:54 AM   #8
Custom Install
Captain
Custom Install's Avatar
United Kingdom
2,538
REP
793
Posts

Drives: G82 M4 Comp X-Drive Individual
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Scotland

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2022 G82 XC   [9.80]
I have a G82 in FDG.
The paint is very easy to maintain, just apply common sense instead of waxing and polishing.
Recently ceramic coated it, initially I was concerned I'd alter the satin finish but it's the same as before although I feel with a slightly deeper tone (that I like)
The only concern I've ever had is if the car gets scratched and requires paint. If this happens I'll 100% sell it and move on, I can just tell it'll never be a repair that'll work unless it's a complete respray of the car. Even then I doubt the factory finish could be achieved as it's so even and flat and that imo is what makes frozen paints so special. I would never consider ppf, and as someone else pointed out once you get the first little marks on it you embrace it and start to really enjoy the car.
__________________
E30 325i Sport: E36 318is: E36 328i Sport:
E46 330Ci Sport: E86 Z4 3.0i
F82 M4: F82 M4 Comp Individual LCI
G82 M4 Comp X-Drive Individual FDG
Appreciate 0
      09-26-2022, 07:10 PM   #9
FISH22
Colonel
FISH22's Avatar
United_States
5,505
REP
2,034
Posts

Drives: G80 M3 Competition
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Chesapeake, VA

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2021 BMW M3C  [10.00]
2011 BMW M3  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri View Post
PPF makes driving alot less stressful for those who want to keep the car looking new. No way I would spend this much on a car and not have full PPF. Also saying that matte paint maintenance is no different from gloss is just wrong.
It's actually a correct statement.

This is assuming that someone who owns a frozen car, utilized proper wash techniques on a gloss car (pressure washing, multiple buckets, foaming, quality products, etc.), and for frozen, you're just swapping out gloss enhancing soaps for matte soap, also being careful to not "rub" the paint. I have been using Dr Beasleys for some time now. The best you can get.

As I stated above, that's about as deep as the maintenance goes on frozen, as paint correction is out the window.

I've had my frozen white G80 since April 2021, 14k miles, daily driver, sits outside most of the time; and with the quality products I've been using, the paint still looks new.
Appreciate 3
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:33 AM.




m5:
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST