[ASAP]

Originally Posted by 2008M36MT

Would respectfully disagree on ATL. It's my Delta layover airport, probably have flown through ATL 100 times, and can't think of a single missed flight, delay that caused me to tear my hair out, cancellation, poor customer service and so forth. Sure, there's the occasional delay, but all-in-all, for the busiest airport in the business, can't think of another one I'd prefer to fly through.

You are a lucky man w ATL lmao... i stood 3 hrs in the immigration line once and almost missed, i shit u not, a 4hr layover.

[2008M36MT]

Originally Posted by ASAP

You are a lucky man w ATL lmao... i stood 3 hrs in the immigration line once and almost missed, i shit u not, a 4hr layover.

Haha, I lost my passport in Amsterdam once flying into ATL, immigration was a breeze, they pulled me aside for 10 minutes reviewed my drivers license, global entry information and the digital photo of my passport and I was on my way.

[floridaorange]

Originally Posted by Suds

SFO, getting a rental car is Hell!

YES!! Glad someone said that, what a nightmare. Never would I have imagined such a sh*t show. I think they want you to give up while in line and just uber everywhere, it must be by design.

Miami was super accommodating in recently helping me and my biz partner skip every line to make our trip home from Antiqua to Orlando.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by Fly320s

Burbansk sucks to fly into/out of for pilots. Short runways, crossing runways, weird winds, high terrain around it, a bunch of GA traffic, small ramp space.

You forgot that their airspace butts-up against LA's. Our downwind sometimes got a bit north (out of position), causing BUR to get out of our way.

[KevinC]

I'll take another angle - most dangerous airports - SNA (John Wayne/Orange County), and SAN (San Diego).

At John Wayne, there's a single short runway, with a general aviation runway right next to it - student pilots taking off/landing all day long right next to the big boys. About 10 incidents a year related to this, I read at some point in the past. And "noise abatement" takeoffs to minimize noise over Newport Beach - jets are required to take off at a high climb angle, then at some low altitude (I forget the figure), cut power way back. This often results in "power brake" takeoffs where the throttles are firewalled before releasing the brakes, much like you might do in your car. My best buddy is a retired AA captain, and he has schooled me of the dangers of these takeoffs, especially with inexperienced Cessna pilots in your proximity. When they cut power, they also lose a lot of maneuverability - not good if they suddenly were to need to change course quickly to avoid a collision.

Often the flight attendants will make an announcement before takeoff because the procedure can be unsettling to the uninitiated. One time on a Southwest flight, after such an announcement, when the pilot cut power during climb-out, she came back on the PA and said "Shhhhh! Be very quiet, we're flying over rich people." Truer words never spoken - noise regulation here but no such restrictions up the road at LAX.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by KevinC

...noise regulation here but no such restrictions up the road at LAX.

Wanna bet? There's a reason we don't "chase the wind" and stay west even with a strongish east wind. Don't fly into/out of LAX between midnight & 0630. We land on 6R and depart 25R (over-ocean for noise). The turn-around (going back to west arrivals) at 0630 could get quite interesting. We had many, many, many noise-abatement rules. I thoroughly enjoyed violating them!

[DC X3M40i]

ever fly into billy bishop in toronto? i found it amusing how i had to take a "ferry" to cross a body of water i could have jumped over... lol

landing there was a bit anxiety inducing due to the small a$$ landing strip

[bucketfoot]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

Pearson Airport in Toronto has been ranked worst and 2nd worst in recent months and routinely is in the top ten....or bottom ten I guess. Getting to your gate to depart isn't too bad if you use Nexus but other than that the security line ups are horrendous and arrivals, make sure you bring walking shoes, I kid you not you are often walking about a mile to get out of the place. https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2056928835691

Wow I just went through there a couple of weeks ago and walked straight through security and customs. Think I had one person way ahead of me.

But then maybe that's because I was going through the side for US citizens. I always liked that I could clear customs on the Toronto side rather than having to wait until I arrive in Denver.

[bucketfoot]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

LAX is a nightmare to get in and out of. Some terminals are horribly outdated while only a couple are modern.

I live 20 minutes away (without traffic) yet even at 5:30am on a weekday it takes over 45 minutes to reach. The 110 fwy and the airport circle itself are parking lots. Then when arriving, have to take a bus to a ride share location, wait on the Uber/Lyft, sit in traffic again, etc.

In any properly developed city, I would be able to just hop on a train directly to/from the airport. But we can't have that in Southern California, car dependence is king.

The thing I really like about LAX is security being at each terminal, unlike the mess they have at DIA.

I also tend to like walking the tunnels there. I will usually take a stroll from Terminal 7/8 over to the international terminal so I can visit Pret.

[2000cs]

It seems the bigger the airport, the worse it is, at least in the USA.

I’ve had good experiences at Tokyo (Narita) and Seoul. In the US, Daytona is better than Orlando, Sanford is pretty good too. LEX was better than Louisville, but Cincinnati is pretty good (because it was built to be a hub for Delta or NWA before their merger and then never got the traffic). SNA is good for a busy little airport, Long Beach can be good too.

What I really enjoy, for travel domestically, is driving. My radius is over 10 hours now (inside that drive time I drive, outside of it I will look at flying). There is really nothing about commercial flying I like any more, except the speed for a very long trip.

[KevinC]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

Wanna bet? There's a reason we don't "chase the wind" and stay west even with a strongish east wind. Don't fly into/out of LAX between midnight & 0630.

I stand corrected. What's the curfew at SNA? IIRC it is (was) 0800 before anyone could take off, which is insane. Aren't those fat cats under the departure path up by then?

[snareman]

London Heathrow! One and done. We had to take a bus from the plane to the terminal that I swear we were on for 10min. Then I got hassled for the size of my 22" carry on for my international flight, even thought I'd just taken an international flight with it. There were a few other hassles. I have no desire to go back. I'll take Gatwick.

[KevinC]

Delta = Dammit Everything Leaves Through Atlanta.

Or Doesn’t Even Leave The Airport

Or Don’t Expect Loved ones To Arrive

😂

[2008M36MT]

Originally Posted by KevinC

Delta = Dammit Everything Leaves Through Atlanta.

Or Doesn't Even Leave The Airport

Or Don't Expect Loved ones To Arrive

😂

Maybe it's just my luck, though I don't think so, but after having status on all 3 of the major US airlines, I can confidently say that Delta has the best customer service, punctuality, reliability, fleet, app, food (in Delta One anyway) lounges and so forth. It's also the most expensive of the 3 airlines, which is it's biggest drawback.

[T0RM3NT]

As with any list, I'm not sure I completely agree with this from my personal experiences. Interesting, nonetheless:

https://www.jdpower.com/business/pre...sfaction-study

By the way, there are several metrics used to rank the busiest airports. Two of the more popular are in passengers moved and the other being operations or movements (landings and takeoffs) which is what I would think an ATC would look at. They could probably care less how many passengers are onboard, but how many planes they depart and arrive is their workload.

Here's a listing of that for 2021:

https://aci.aero/2022/07/25/final-da...rts-confirmed/

[Vulpe]

Every time I travel I hate coming back into Honolulu International (Daniel K. Inouye International Airport) It's so outdated and inefficient. Gosh the Sydney and Narita airports were amazing.

[NoMods]

Charlotte and San Diego, especially the SWA terminal, old and crowded

[XutvJet]

No one flown thru Kansas City? Now that's a crappy airport, amenity wise. We will have a new terminal next year though and it will be NICE.

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by 2000cs

It seems the bigger the airport, the worse it is, at least in the USA.

I’ve had good experiences at Tokyo (Narita) and Seoul. In the US, Daytona is better than Orlando, Sanford is pretty good too. LEX was better than Louisville, but Cincinnati is pretty good (because it was built to be a hub for Delta or NWA before their merger and then never got the traffic). SNA is good for a busy little airport, Long Beach can be good too.

What I really enjoy, for travel domestically, is driving. My radius is over 10 hours now (inside that drive time I drive, outside of it I will look at flying). There is really nothing about commercial flying I like any more, except the speed for a very long trip.

I have a 5-6 hr cutoff for driving... 10 is a bit extreme... anything above 6 hrs I really would prefer to fly even tho I loathe commercial... the beauty of flying has been stolen by the airlines, overcrowded planes, shoddy airports and just rude people that dont' want to be there.

[mc-m3]

O'Hare - too big, trip to the runway takes so long I though the plane was going to drive to Seattle. International customs is great though.

SEA - terrible for customs. played 20 questions with 3 different agents (they were doing this to everyone) after a long flight from EU. Just wanted to go home to sleep.

[LivingInSalt]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

No one flown thru Kansas City? Now that's a crappy airport, amenity wise. We will have a new terminal next year though and it will be NICE.

Originally Posted by LivingInSalt

Not enough of you have flown in and out of MCI and it shows

[UncleWede]

Y'all ever try to get into/out of Mexico City???? Even in a van with a driver who does this every day, multiple times per day.