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      10-21-2022, 05:36 PM   #1
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Hello, I went into a local shop that had XPEL signage.

I thought hey....that's the stuff I wanted and I can't believe my kind of small town has someone locally that can install it. Haven't it done out of town would not be easy.

I've got a new M3 about to be delivered so I went in to ask a few questions. He said it would take about a week to install XPEL Stealth on my black car. Full wrap with removing lights, ect to get in behind them so no lines.

Does that sound like the normal turnaround?

Seems to me they probably haven't done many since they are fairly new to this location. I will ask to see pictures of past projects.

Do these installers have to be trained by XPEL to install their products or can any jack wagon say they can install it for thousands of dollars and then it turns out like shit?

Thanks for any info on this stuff!
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Hello, I went into a local shop that had XPEL signage.

I thought hey....that's the stuff I wanted and I can't believe my kind of small town has someone locally that can install it. Haven't it done out of town would not be easy.

I've got a new M3 about to be delivered so I went in to ask a few questions. He said it would take about a week to install XPEL Stealth on my black car. Full wrap with removing lights, ect to get in behind them so no lines.

Does that sound like the normal turnaround?

Seems to me they probably haven't done many since they are fairly new to this location. I will ask to see pictures of past projects.

Do these installers have to be trained by XPEL to install their products or can any jack wagon say they can install it for thousands of dollars and then it turns out like shit?

Thanks for any info on this stuff!
Yes, that is about normal for the timeframe.


If you can physically go to the shop its better, there you can inspect the work of cars that they have on site. In pictures, all PPF jobs look good lol. You really have to inspect it in person - the edges, seams, how things are tucked, the cut etc
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Yes, that is about normal for the timeframe.


If you can physically go to the shop its better, there you can inspect the work of cars that they have on site. In pictures, all PPF jobs look good lol. You really have to inspect it in person - the edges, seams, how things are tucked, the cut etc
Good point! I'll swing by and see if there is anything on their books for ppf.
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Yes, that is normal.

Are they paint correcting the car before they install the PPF?

And I second you actually seeing the work that has been done on other cars, not just a picture of it, so you can put your nose on the car and really look at the nooks and crannies.
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Yes, that is normal.

Are they paint correcting the car before they install the PPF?

And I second you actually seeing the work that has been done on other cars, not just a picture of it, so you can put your nose on the car and really look at the nooks and crannies.
I think that's great advise, I will be dropping by next week to see if I can do just that.

They never mentioned paint correction so I doubt it. Is that necessary for a new car?
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I think that's great advise, I will be dropping by next week to see if I can do just that.

They never mentioned paint correction so I doubt it. Is that necessary for a new car?
Yes
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I think that's great advise, I will be dropping by next week to see if I can do just that.

They never mentioned paint correction so I doubt it. Is that necessary for a new car?
"Necessary", no, however highly advisable, YES! I wouldn't PPF a vehicle, even new, without having the paint corrected. It is very likely that it won't be a major correction, however, the small niggles, scuffs, swirls, and minor imperfections and scratches from delivery, etc. will be removed and you'll have as close to perfect paint under the PPF as you could have.

You wouldn't want to PPF a vehicle with some mars and imperfections, because you'd have to remove the PPF to fix them.

It's well worth the $ and time to get that done before PPF is installed. Most higher end/better/quality shops should do that before installing the PPF, or at least mention that fact to you.
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"Necessary", no, however highly advisable, YES! I wouldn't PPF a vehicle, even new, without having the paint corrected. It is very likely that it won't be a major correction, however, the small niggles, scuffs, swirls, and minor imperfections and scratches from delivery, etc. will be removed and you'll have as close to perfect paint under the PPF as you could have.

You wouldn't want to PPF a vehicle with some mars and imperfections, because you'd have to remove the PPF to fix them.

It's well worth the $ and time to get that done before PPF is installed. Most higher end/better/quality shops should do that before installing the PPF, or at least mention that fact to you.
Totally true, no PPF without paint correction. 1000%.
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I think that's great advise, I will be dropping by next week to see if I can do just that.

They never mentioned paint correction so I doubt it. Is that necessary for a new car?
I'd never have a shop like this do my PPF. They should've at least mentioned about paint correction and assess the paint before starting the PPF install.
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I wouldn’t worry about a full correction before PPF if the car brand new. Mine was 6 months old when I had mine done and all I did was correct the black glos sections as I was worried that they would show through the PPF but they wouldn’t have done.

Gloss levels on the PPF can be matched to paint, my advice would be to ceramic coat the PPF as this will level off the tiny dimples that PPF has and then hit it regularly with ceramicist or sio2 quick detailer.

Have a look on my insta fireorangenpt and you’ll see that my front end looks as glossy as the rest of the car.
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I wouldn’t worry about a full correction before PPF if the car brand new. Mine was 6 months old when I had mine done and all I did was correct the black glos sections as I was worried that they would show through the PPF but they wouldn’t have done.

Gloss levels on the PPF can be matched to paint, my advice would be to ceramic coat the PPF as this will level off the tiny dimples that PPF has and then hit it regularly with ceramicist or sio2 quick detailer.

Have a look on my insta fireorangenpt and you’ll see that my front end looks as glossy as the rest of the car.
Are you talking about your orange M4 that you posted (it shows immediately below this thread) about it the paint "being a nightmare to correct"? I'm confused and don't want the OP being confused either over correcting a new car before PPF.

BTW, I really like your color paint on your M4. It looks super sharp!
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Xpel has so much orange peel you probably won't notice any light imperfections in the paint if you don't correct it anyway. So many better PPF options out there.
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Xpel has so much orange peel you probably won't notice any light imperfections in the paint if you don't correct it anyway. So many better PPF options out there.
Thanks for the response.

Can you give me some examples of better ppf than Xpel?

I've never done a ppf or a ceramic coat so this is all new to me.

I do think I will want to make the black look like it's frozen.

At this point, I am having a hard time finding options for a shop to install the ppf.

Thanks again to all responses!
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Another thing I forgot to mention is that they mentioned having the ability to order the ppf with ceramic coating already on it.

Is that a good idea or should I do them separately?
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