[CarlosM4]

Originally Posted by E63M6_G42M240i

You’re absolutely wrong about the weight buddy. Do your homework before you type. The USA version of the panamera turbo ehybrid is 5302 lbs, the eu version is 5,360 lbs and the m5 is 5 cm longer and it’s wider. Furthermore, I didn’t say the g90 would beat the panamera ehybrid at the Ring so that other stuff you say is irrelevant. Get your facts straight.

2350kg DIN for Panamera Turbo Hybrid 2024, vs 2435kg for the M5

[CarlosM4]

The M5 F90 Competition with CUP 2s, a company driver going full send, and some camber work, could come in spitting distance of the Panamera Turbo Hybrid record.

[E63M6_G42M240i]

Originally Posted by CarlosM4

2350kg DIN for Panamera Turbo Hybrid 2024, vs 2435kg for the M5

Lmfao!

Straight off of Porsche website U.S.A. spec is 5302 lbs, eu spec is 5360 and that’s the spec (eu) that just broke the record!

It’s also 76.3 inches wide without mirrors while the g90 is 77.5 wide and 5 cm longer. Get your facts straight

porsche panamera turbo ehybrid specs

[CarlosM4]

https://www.porsche.com/brazil/pt/mo...urbo-e-hybrid/

https://www.bmw.co.nz/en/all-models/...ical-data.html

[CarlosM4]

I will concede you are right on the width and length (even the front track).

The Panamera on the other hand is lighter, has active engine mounts and anti-roll bars.

[E63M6_G42M240i]

Originally Posted by CarlosM4

I will concede you are right on the width and length (even the front track).

The Panamera on the other hand is lighter, has active engine mounts and anti-roll bars.

First off carlos I don’t speak Spanish and I don’t care what the Brazil says. Porsche USA says 5302 lbs and Porsche EU spec which is the one that actually ran is 5,360! You also give New Zealand specs for the M5 lmfao.

[CarlosM4]

Originally Posted by E63M6_G42M240i

First off carlos I don’t speak Spanish and I don’t care what the Brazil says. Porsche USA says 5302 lbs and Porsche EU spec which is the one that actually ran is 5,360! You also give New Zealand specs for the M5 lmfao.

Your discriminatory remarks says it all. Blocked.

[E63M6_G42M240i]

Originally Posted by CarlosM4

Your discriminatory remarks says it all. Blocked.

Not discriminating Carlos. The Porsche link you sent was in Spanish (or Portuguese?) and I don’t understand most of it, unlike the G90 M5 link which is in English (new zealand). Since we’re conversing in English, perhaps you should have provided a Porsche link that is also in English? Try a little less prejudice next time. Not everyone speaks/reads Spanish/Portuguese here.

[NKGK20]

This whale is a thousand pounds heavier and it’s doing 3 flat.. roll out better tires whatever this car is faster then the f90. Just wait until it’s tuned with some weight reduction. Yall lacking

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by E63M6_G42M240i

Not discriminating Carlos. The Porsche link you sent was in Spanish (or Portuguese?)

Here you go!

https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/p...urbo-e-hybrid/

[Savoy2001]

Originally Posted by NKGK20

This whale is a thousand pounds heavier and it’s doing 3 flat.. roll out better tires whatever this car is faster then the f90. Just wait until it’s tuned with some weight reduction. Yall lacking

On what planet is it going 3 flat? You need to stop smoking so much. The f90 comp with a tune is faster yet. What does that prove? You aren’t getting a half second .5 better than official bmw time. You can forget that. It’s underpowered unfortunately. This Car needed 800+ hp for close to 3 seconds and even then maybe not but much closer. Don’t worry bmw will u all for what you got when they introduce the comp version next year with 820hp. You know the way they could have done it this year and didn’t just like they did with xm/label red. Oh I know they said they won’t have a comp version right? So that means they won’t “ change” their minds right next year? Wink wink. I mean using the same exact engine they used in xm and then pulley the same bs with bringing out the real version with what should never been brought out the first time wasn’t enough for everyone to learn from eh?

[NKGK20]

Originally Posted by Savoy2001

On what planet is it going 3 flat? You need to stop smoking so much. The f90 comp with a tune is faster yet. What does that prove? You aren’t getting a half second .5 better than official bmw time. You can forget that. It’s underpowered unfortunately. This Car needed 800+ hp for close to 3 seconds and even then maybe not but much closer. Don’t worry bmw will u all for what you got when they introduce the comp version next year with 820hp. You know the way they could have done it this year and didn’t just like they did with xm/label red. Oh I know they said they won’t have a comp version right? So that means they won’t “ change” their minds right next year? Wink wink. I mean using the same exact engine they used in xm and then pulley the same bs with bringing out the real version with what should never been brought out the first time wasn’t enough for everyone to learn from eh?

There’s a couple of videos circulating it went 3 flat. Do your homework..

[azuki]

dang thats still fast

[S EyeLand]

Originally Posted by Chihuahua

Already is a beast. Best M5 since the E60.

Which ones have you driven?

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by NKGK20

There’s a couple of videos circulating it went 3 flat. Do your homework..

I think its premature to state that based on video timing. It's speculation at this point. Let's wait and see until the car is properly reviewed and instrument tested.

[Savoy2001]

Originally Posted by NKGK20

There’s a couple of videos circulating it went 3 flat. Do your homework..

The only thing I heard that was closer to 3 seconds was with roll out bs. That does not count lol. Give me a break. That ridiculous. If that’s what you mean then ya ooook. Lol

[MegaMalding]

Breaking news, G90 M5 does 3.2 seconds to 60mph, F90 M5 does 0-60 in 2.8 seconds… the rest is history.

[E63M6_G42M240i]

Originally Posted by MegaMalding

Breaking news, G90 M5 does 3.2 seconds to 60mph, F90 M5 does 0-60 in 2.8 seconds… the rest is history.

Where? The actual test I saw was 3.0 0-62, I believe without rollout subtracted and 62-124 the f90 is definitively gapped. Comparing rolling acceleration even the f90 m5 cs gets gapped.

[E63M6_G42M240i]

The same German DIN weight. Say Porsche is a better car, fine, but it’s not lighter and costs $70k more.

[MSchfiftyFive]

Owned 3 different F90 Comp's, enjoyed each of them, not fair to compare this first offering to a Comp. It's quicker than the base F90 when it debuted, and right in line w/ what I was expecting and mentioned a couple months ago. BMW may have publicly said there won't be a Comp trim for the G90 but that's all that means, certainly there will be a spicier Label Red equivalent in time, and that's the fair comparison to the F90 Comp, which it will be quicker than in a straight line.

The disappointing part is that you just can't hide that much extra mass at the limit in the corners no matter what you do, where the F90 (aside from the CS) already feels like a boat. This thing can use rear wheel steer and active anti roll bars all it wants but it's always going to be heavy at the limit. Makes me even more content to be in my current G80 M3XC, it's going to be the best drivers car for the foreseeable future of the bunch... Doesn't mean I won't snag whatever the next iteration of the G90 is in the future though!

[yousefnjr]

Originally Posted by Savoy2001

On what planet is it going 3 flat? You need to stop smoking so much. The f90 comp with a tune is faster yet. What does that prove? You aren’t getting a half second .5 better than official bmw time. You can forget that. It’s underpowered unfortunately. This Car needed 800+ hp for close to 3 seconds and even then maybe not but much closer. Don’t worry bmw will u all for what you got when they introduce the comp version next year with 820hp. You know the way they could have done it this year and didn’t just like they did with xm/label red. Oh I know they said they won’t have a comp version right? So that means they won’t “ change” their minds right next year? Wink wink. I mean using the same exact engine they used in xm and then pulley the same bs with bringing out the real version with what should never been brought out the first time wasn’t enough for everyone to learn from eh?

I haven’t really followed the XM scene, but I did just see a Motortrend video today where they ran one in the qtr mile. Unprepped surface and without details on timing, 3.4s to 60, and 11.6 @ 122 iirc. Possible the M5 gets to 3.0 or close to it I think.

[CarlosM4]

Originally Posted by yousefnjr

I haven’t really followed the XM scene, but I did just see a Motortrend video today where they ran one in the qtr mile. Unprepped surface and without details on timing, 3.4s to 60, and 11.6 @ 122 iirc. Possible the M5 gets to 3.0 or close to it I think.

The F90 and G90 will be equally fast.