[PNWM3]

Originally Posted by 24CBX4M40i

The CB's and CCB's actually drive down the value of the car on trade in. Both are only wanted by an extremely narrow buyer profile

If you buy this car instead of leasing you’re crazy…

[imperfectluck]

Originally Posted by PNWM3

78If you buy this
car instead of leasing you’re crazy…

When you can write off a vehicle as a business expense, you're less crazy

[imperfectluck]

Originally Posted by spuntyb

I think if weight were the sole issue, we’d see more heavy cars and trucks optioned with them. And probably would be pointless to put them on a lighter car, like an F8, right?

I think we can all just admit they’re a vanity item on a daily driver, and there’s nothing wrong with that. They definitely make the IG photos pop!

I’d argue that on a lease, they really aren’t all that expensive. Brake dust stopped bothering me a long time ago, but I understand it makes a lot of folks itch, so I get the urge to option them just for that.

I'd say it's not just the weight but how quickly you'd like to deceleration said weight over and over but I agree, most that will daily a G90 would not benefit from that but their back wound be happier not having to clean brake dust regularly.

I'm objectively leaving the lease comparison out as it isn't a fair one.

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by Wheel man

I have CCB on my M6 and LOVE them. I have owned it for 11 years with 72k miles on the clock to date. I have only had the front pads changed ounce at 58k miles. The cost was $950 with oem pads at an independent shop.

My M8 has steel brakes and I am underwhelmed with the braking. I ordered the CCB to replace them. Hopefully I will have them installed next week.

So my question would be for those that don’t see the value. Have you owned a vehicle with CCB option? You can’t miss what you never had..I’m just saying. Right?

Never owned, but have driven them on a handful of cars, just on the street/highway.

Jag F Type R, a few 458s, at least one Huracan, a bunch of F80s, and one F90. They’re v grabby, and a bit touchy, and are fine, but again, not sure why i would intentionally spec them unless i wanted the look, which i do admittedly dig. I’m happy admiring them on other folks cars tho lol. My M cars are pure workhorses and have had more dents, scrapes, pits, and rock chips than most people here could even stomach. Having shiny CCBs would honestly look out of place!

Sidenote, reminds me of the time my shop (AutoCouture) reached out to sell me a set of FI-Rs for my first F90, my absolute favorite wheels, and i had to tell him the story of how my 3yo at the time found a rock in the park we were at and used it to scratch a 3 inch gash in my front quarter panel to show me how sharp the rock was. I just had to laugh and told him they would absolutely be wasted on me lol.

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by imperfectluck

I'd say it's not just the weight but how quickly you'd like to deceleration said weight over and over but I agree, most that will daily a G90 would not benefit from that but their back wound be happier not having to clean brake dust regularly.

I'm objectively leaving the lease comparison out as it isn't a fair one.

Right. I was pointing out that spec’ing CCBs isn’t really much to do with the weight. So many factors to consider, and honestly if folks were that worried, upgraded steel rotors, pads, and fluid do the same job for the street (although still overkill). I mean, u can buy a riding mower for your condo’s backyard if u want, don’t let me stop you…ill be sure to admire it from my side of the fence and give u a big thumbs up!

My point was really towards the development of this new G9x platform, and how weight has become a real issue to contend with. A few real life reviews have mentioned the weight being an impediment to driving and enjoying the car, which is where the “you should get CCBs to fix that!” discussion comes up, and it’s always just painful to read…

[Thewolfbmw]

Originally Posted by hufington

Carbon ceramic brakes are a must!

They are a must beyond the obvious. In fact, if you are the slightest bit OCD, every ///M should be ordered with CCB. Beyond the brake dust, the flash rust from any moisture that sits on the rotors creates a pumpkin colored rim 2 blocks later. Lol Sure you can use hydes or Bilt Hamber, but that only covers the front of the rotor. After 3 ///M, I finally learned my lesson. 😀

Dalher is a pricey option over other piggys. Those gains might cut .1 off a 60mph / 100kph run and maybe .2 in the 1/4 run. Don't get me wrong, I would add one but it would be nice if it was 120hp gain. When the Comp comes out, the factor tune Will cute those gains down by half.

I wonder if a transmission flash or remap would help any of the piggybacks..

Cheers!

[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by Thewolfbmw

They are a must beyond the obvious. In fact, if you are the slightest bit OCD, every ///M should be ordered with CCB. Beyond the brake dust, the flash rust from any moisture that sits on the rotors creates a pumpkin colored rim 2 blocks later. Lol Sure you can use hydes or Bilt Hamber, but that only covers the front of the rotor. After 3 ///M, I finally learned my lesson. 😀

Dalher is a pricey option over other piggys. Those gains might cut .1 off a 60mph / 100kph run and maybe .2 in the 1/4 run. Don't get me wrong, I would add one but it would be nice if it was 120hp gain. When the Comp comes out, the factor tune Will cute those gains down by half.

I wonder if a transmission flash or remap would help any of the piggybacks..

Cheers!

I think it is the most conservative with lowest hp per dollar
Get jb4 or even racechip half the price or even less with more hp per dollar
I personally got the jb4 that can add up to 120 plus hp with u use e mix and can get full wupport from the team with logs
I dont understand why dahler is so expensive and with only 70 hp

[HotWheels409]

IMO CCB's is an extra add to a car that won't ever be pushed to a limit worthy of the extra expense.
The only benefit of having CCB's is for those that don't like to clean their car very often.

[iifymbro]

Originally Posted by HotWheels409

IMO CCB's is an extra add to a car that won't ever be pushed to a limit worthy of the extra expense.
The only benefit of having CCB's is for those that don't like to clean their car very often.

also,

1. They look badass

2. lower unsprung mass, although the boat anchor stock cast wheels are holding that back so gotta swap them for the forged m-perf ones or aftermarket.

[Kstoff125]

The elimination of brake dust is worth it IMO. They also look great and you never have to deal with rust of any sort.

I’m sure they perform better and weigh less, but like many have mentioned, the actual performance advantages are probably not relevant in most cases.

I prefer the CCBs for the ease of cleaning and look, but it is an expensive box to check.

At the end of the day, CCBs or steel, you’ll love the car.

I do agree with a few members who mentioned the increase in confidence from CCBs, while this may be more placebo than reality, it is a real feeling.

[NORAGRETS]

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