g90 m5 b&w vs g60 i5

masd79 · 12-05-2024, 07:09 PM

Why is this missing in the m5 ? Weight saving?

subterFUSE · 12-05-2024, 08:33 PM

Cost savings. BMW did as much as they could to keep the price of the M5 below $150k. If the G90 had all the options available that the F90 had, then it would have been $175k.

masd79 · 12-05-2024, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by subterFUSE

Cost savings. BMW did as much as they could to keep the price of the M5 below $150k. If the G90 had all the options available that the F90 had, then it would have been $175k.

This is from the i5 m60i though, which is $30k cheaper… me still thinks weight related as the steel housing and the led speaker plus the soft close mechanism weighed too much

gblansten · 12-05-2024, 08:41 PM

That speaker kit and housing would have raised the center of gravity and adversely affected the handling of this svelte Teutonic powerhouse.

MidwestPsych · 12-06-2024, 02:06 AM

It has the illuminated speakers in the back but not the front. I think because of the light bar they suspected it would be too much, IDK, I would have preferred it for though.

DocWeatherington · 12-06-2024, 03:39 AM

Has anyone confirmed the M5 doesnt have lit speakers? Also is this market specific?

I do know the i5 and M5 systems aren't exactly the same. I5 doesn't have any underseat speakers.

iifymbro · 12-06-2024, 08:21 AM

they've got the continuum cone midrange in this thing at least (silver mesh), may not be the diamond system but there's quality parts in it still. They use the same stuff in their loudspeakers that cost more per tower then the whole diamond system in any BMW.

Moewron · 12-06-2024, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Has anyone confirmed the M5 doesnt have lit speakers? Also is this market specific?

I do know the i5 and M5 systems aren't exactly the same. I5 doesn't have any underseat speakers.

Rear door speakers in the M5 are lit. Front ones are not.

masd79 · 12-06-2024, 08:25 AM

M5 also doesn’t have the all the ambient lighting modes either that the i5 has… why or why?

Remigijus · 12-06-2024, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by masd79

M5 also doesn’t have the all the ambient lighting modes either that the i5 has… why or why?

What modes are missing?

subterFUSE · 12-06-2024, 08:52 AM

I don't think weight was a consideration for the M5. It's already more than 1000 lbs heavier than the prior gen, I don't think a few LED lights on speakers was going to tip the scales in an appreciable way at that point.

I still believe the de-contenting of the M5 was done for cost savings.

masd79 · 12-06-2024, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Remigijus

What modes are missing?

The turn signal, hazard, multi color on same lighting bar effects I guess.. there no relaxing, energizing options.. unless I haven’t discovered them yet.

masd79 · 12-06-2024, 09:36 AM

My brother has a i5 m60, I will do a full side by side video and post it

DocWeatherington · 12-06-2024, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by masd79

M5 also doesn’t have the all the ambient lighting modes either that the i5 has… why or why?

Probably all codable, however they do have different versions of I drive.

Tom9960 · 12-09-2024, 03:54 AM

I dont think it comes from the factory like that. I think BMW chose to cover the speaker in fabric because it hits the side of your knee. I preferre the lights in the speaker and when my G90 arrives, I will be intrested in doing this mod.

Remigijus · 12-09-2024, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom9960

I dont think it comes from the factory like that. I think BMW chose to cover the speaker in fabric because it hits the side of your knee. I preferre the lights in the speaker and when my G90 arrives, I will be intrested in doing this mod.

Nah, they just saving costs. Let's look at other parts and materials

EUPremier · 01-12-2025, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MidwestPsych

It has the illuminated speakers in the back but not the front. I think because of the light bar they suspected it would be too much, IDK, I would have preferred it for though.

I think you’re 100% on that. It would be too
much.

EUPremier · 01-12-2025, 07:51 PM

FWIW:
The B&W logo on the front door tweeter is illuminated.

DocWeatherington · Yesterday, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by masd79

My brother has a i5 m60, I will do a full side by side video and post it

Has any confirmed that the speaker doesnt not have the LED and it's just not coded to be on? From a cost perspective the led vs no led isnt much. Did they just chose not to code it on vs not install it?

ctelimad · Yesterday, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Has any confirmed that the speaker doesnt not have the LED and it's just not coded to be on? From a cost perspective the led vs no led isnt much. Did they just chose not to code it on vs not install it?

The front speaker covers are cloth so no bw cover or led
The back they are metal and illuminated

masd79 · Yesterday, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Has any confirmed that the speaker doesnt not have the LED and it's just not coded to be on? From a cost perspective the led vs no led isnt much. Did they just chose not to code it on vs not install it?

Didn’t get a chance for a side by side, but it turns out that the m5 has a different speaker implementation so it’s not about being lit, it’s a different product

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