[flybigjet]

So. My buddy, his kid (my more-or-less-nephew), my wife and I all went skiing/boarding today.

My buddy drove us in his Cybertruck from Denver to Vail and return.

Honestly? It still looks *horrible* to my eyes, but after spending more than a few hours trapped in traffic in it, I have to admit that the technology is pretty damn impressive.

Not ~$100k impressive, but impressive all the same.

Would I ever own one? Not in a million years.

Am I impressed with it? Yes. It's pretty amazing how Tesla's managed to get a ~6000 lb. behemoth to more or less violate the laws of physics.

One thing? The rear seats are ABSOLUTE TORTURE DEVICES. They suck donkey balls. It would help if they could be reclined a bit, but they're at about an 80-degree angle and are terribly unforgiving of anything more than about 20 minutes of use. The front? Fine. Great. Comfy. The rears? Throw a member of the Taliban back there an in 45 minutes he'll tell you anything you want to know.

I had to come home and take a hot shower to get the kinks out of my back.

Oh-- and watching the range decrease to lower and lower numbers as we were stuck in traffic west of the Eisenhower tower? Not a lot of fun when you're tired and achey-- we weren't sure he'd have enough juice to drop my wife and I off and then get home. He made it..... at 10% reserve.

He told me this morning that it took nine hours (!) in his garage to charge from 10% to 80%.

R.

[Vindicator3]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

EXACTLY

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[DrVenture]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

So. My buddy, his kid (my more-or-less-nephew), my wife and I all went skiing/boarding today.

My buddy drove us in his Cybertruck from Denver to Vail and return.

Honestly? It still looks *horrible* to my eyes, but after spending more than a few hours trapped in traffic in it, I have to admit that the technology is pretty damn impressive.

Not ~$100k impressive, but impressive all the same.

Would I ever own one? Not in a million years.

Am I impressed with it? Yes. It's pretty amazing how Tesla's managed to get a ~6000 lb. behemoth to more or less violate the laws of physics.

One thing? The rear seats are ABSOLUTE TORTURE DEVICES. They suck donkey balls. It would help if they could be reclined a bit, but they're at about an 80-degree angle and are terribly unforgiving of anything more than about 20 minutes of use. The front? Fine. Great. Comfy. The rears? Throw a member of the Taliban back there an in 45 minutes he'll tell you anything you want to know.

I had to come home and take a hot shower to get the kinks out of my back.

R.

Taking into consideration the low center of gravity all that battery weight demands and the massive torque of DC motors, it may not be as amazing, as it is a paradigm shift.

As we have all witnessed, car lovers with IC transportation used to bow at the alter of acceleration, now with the advent of EV tech, they have all but given up on being top of that heap. Handling has become the new focus, but when new tech brings down the weight of EVs, that may also fall to the wayside. The only thing left will be to worship the noise and vibration, lol.

[flybigjet]

Originally Posted by DrVenture

Taking into consideration the low center of gravity all that battery weight demands and the massive torque of DC motors, it may not be as amazing, as it is a paradigm shift.

As we have all witnessed, car lovers with IC transportation used to bow at the alter of acceleration, now with the advent of EV tech, they have all but given up on being top of that heap. Handling has become the new focus, but when new tech brings down the weight of EVs, that may also fall to the wayside. The only thing left will be to worship the noise and vibration, lol.

The other thing that helps with its mass is that all four wheels steer. Yes, it's been done before by pretty much every manufacturer at one time or the other, but (and I *really* hate to say this) Tesla really knocked it out of the park with it on the Cybertruck.

The truck just feels sort of, almost..... nimble? I don't know how to explain it otherwise. You're sitting there thinking that it's going to handle like a drunken elephant, and all of a sudden it feels a lot smaller and lighter than it really is. It sort of catches you off guard the first time you drive it.

Yes, it's an illusion (mass is mass after all), but whatever engineering/software combination that some nameless (NDA'd to the nine's) Tesla design team came up with-- it's damn good.

That being said, I still think the Cybertruck is a one-trick pony that won't age well. The stainless looks "ugh" even when freshly cleaned (my buddy is debating about polishing it..... um, no), the panel fit and finish look like they belong on a kit car, the goofball steering wheel is a complete and utter design fail, and obviously its looks are..... polarizing, to say the least.

BUT..... the lessons learned from the design and manufacture of it will probably be pretty valuable to Tesla going forward.

I won't be all that surprised if it gets killed off in the fairly near future though.

R.

[Efthreeoh]

I understand why Tesla went after the light duty pickup truck market since it's a huge part of US market sales, but the Cybertruck was a bit over the top in its ethstetics design and execution. It costs too much for traditional buyers to change over to it in mass. Ford's electric F150 is not a leap to electric like the Cybertruck is. Ford sits good with its truck. It's loyal followers know what to expect if they switch from their well-known ICE F150 platform. New 1st-time truck buyers who want to own EV are going to the No. 1 light pickup truck manufacturer, which has a great track record. Win-win.

[FC4]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

I understand why Tesla went after the light duty pickup truck market since it's a huge part of US market sales, but the Cybertruck was a bit over the top in its ethstetics design and execution. It costs too much for traditional buyers to change over to it in mass. Ford's electric F150 is not a leap to electric like the Cybertruck is. Ford sits good with its truck. It's loyal followers know what to expect if they switch from their well-known ICE F150 platform. New 1st-time truck buyers who want to own EV are going to the No. 1 light pickup truck manufacturer, which has a great track record. Win-win.

Absolutely. That's why Lightning sales figures blow the Cybertruck outta the water.