[ASAP]

Originally Posted by Bluex

When I first purchased my F80 I got compliments from the 40+ year old car enthusiast. It was a hit at Cars & Coffee. In the latter days of my ownership (as in these past 2 years) compliments came from the tween-set.

Compliments went from being really appreciated and a conversation starter to just "bruh like your ride, lets race" and embarrassing. I can only imagine the G80 is all that on hyperdrive.

the median age of the M3 driver has significantly moved down... as evidenced by all social media

[Bluex]

Originally Posted by ASAP

the median age of the M3 driver has significantly moved down... as evidenced by all social media

And not even necessarily because they can afford it either.

My son graduates SMU in May and thankfully already has his first career job all set and waiting for him when he does. Once he got that job, the first bit of advice I gave him was: Save for a house. Save for an engagement ring. Don't fall into the trap of spending that money on expensive apartment complexes (everywhere these days) that literally give you nothing at the end of your lease. Don't fall into the trap of expensive cars just yet.

So many that young are unfortunately doing just that. It looks great on social media, and not so much in the future.

20 year old's in M3's generally say 1 of 2 things: lots of family money or no financial planning whatsoever.

The example I gave earlier of my son's hockey teammate having a brand new M4 Comp, well his dad owns a major sports team, so that would be option 1 from above

Yeah, I get it, i'm 53 and old and i'm totally showing that age with what i'm saying but.....i'm not wrong

(I'll also say, that if I had the option at 20 to buy an M3, I probably would have fallen into that trap. As it was, my first new car was at 25 and a '96 MK3 GTI VR6...and I loved it. As close as I could get to an M3 as I could at that age)

[Bluex]

As a side note to the above: while reviewers liked the MK3 GTI VR6 when it came out, they roasted it for being so HEAVY at 2800 lbs

Back then, I knew Garrett (developer of GIAC Software) personally. He was just getting started and was working with Todd from AWE Tuning, who was also just getting started.

My GTI was a test car for Garrett and I regularly got chips from him and then installed by Todd at AWE (located in Philly) and he'd dyno the car. It was all brand new then and the mod community was really taking off. Garrett was a genius and an innovator. I know the company is around, but not sure how active he is anymore. Todd put in an adjustable Koni suspension on my GTI and with the Garrett chip, man that thing was fun. Sorry for the off-topic posts.

[Stockholmarn]

Originally Posted by Bluex

the first bit of advice I gave him was: Save for a house. Don't fall into the trap of spending that money on an expensive engagement ring

FTFY

[iifymbro]

now back to code 105..... will call genius line on monday to see what's up

[gs89]

Originally Posted by CarlosM4

The E53 AMG appears to be bloody brilliant, getting far more praise than the new M5. I feel dumb for not having a crack at it when I was in Germany.

If they come out with a E63 S AMG with the V8 engine and that chassis (which was confirmed recently), I am not sure the M5 will be in a good place, BMW will have to come with CP versions to make it tighter.

Everyone is a bit lost, but so is BMW. I ordered and liked the G90 M5 for what it is, but its not a M5.

I took E53s First Edition for a weekend drive from the local dealer, when i had thoughts to cancel the G90 after 6 months without allocation. Apart from BMW, Mercedes are giving cars to be tested properly. I can assure you they are not in the same league. The E-class is nice, looks sporty, feels sporty but it's almost AMG, like the M340, M550 and etc. There won't be a E63 for sure, the dealer confirmed - this is why the have to engine options for the E53.

[CarlosM4]

Originally Posted by gs89

I took E53s First Edition for a weekend drive from the local dealer, when i had thoughts to cancel the G90 after 6 months without allocation. Apart from BMW, Mercedes are giving cars to be tested properly. I can assure you they are not in the same league. The E-class is nice, looks sporty, feels sporty but it's almost AMG, like the M340, M550 and etc. There won't be a E63 for sure, the dealer confirmed - this is why the have to engine options for the E53.

The E63 is coming.

[evanevery]

Just for the record...

I'm not sure where the rumors of production delays are coming from. I checked in with my inside advisor on my G99 order and it actually was moved up in production. It went from PW12 to PW10.

...and yes, its has CCB's.

[Crazy1323]

Originally Posted by evanevery

Just for the record...

I'm not sure where the rumors of production delays are coming from. I checked in with my inside advisor on my G99 order and it actually was moved up in production. It went from PW12 to PW10.

...and yes, its has CCB's.

I have a touring on order with a confirmed production date and CCB’s, I have not heard anything about a delay.