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      07-31-2022, 03:02 PM   #199
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Ferrari looking strong again. Let's just hope Leclerc can put together a complete race. With only 10 races to go, there's no more room for error.
you completely underestimate Ferrari's ability to lose in so many ways, and consistently so year after year

they destroy world champions and ensure rookies never make it
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      07-31-2022, 03:11 PM   #200
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Charles had no idea what the strategy was...



There's only one emotion in this interview: defeat.
Chas should be pointing a finger at Binotto now.
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      07-31-2022, 03:13 PM   #201
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You are more a Porsche fan than a Ferrari fan?
Ferrari is an epic marque and have been in F1 since the beginning, every year.

But it's indeed astonishing how many strategic errors they make this year.
Sure both LEC and SAI have made drivers errors (more than VER and also more severe for sure), but, having arguably the fastest car on the grid, it's mainly strategic errors why they don't lead both WDC and WCC (sure there was mechanical trouble, but RB's have had that too).

I mean in this race the lap times of KMAG, ALO and OCO all showed that it was way too cold for hard tyres and the lap time differences between hards and mediums was massive.
And then so late in the race again back to reds was another 20sec that they couldn't get back. So choosing for hards was a mistake, and going back so late to reds was also a mistake (I don't think LEC would have dropped down to P6 if he stayed on hards; maybe to P4)
I'm just disgusted with Ferrari right now. It takes A LOT of work to screw up that badly. From the second I saw Ferrari starting on mediums and RUS on softs I said here we go again. Ferrari trying to out think the room never goes well.

Honestly, VER starts P10, has a spin and beats you
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      07-31-2022, 03:13 PM   #202
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...and they bring Chas in again for softs
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      07-31-2022, 03:27 PM   #203
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That correction on that spin was so slick. Then he catches up and passes Chuck again lol
Yeah. I heard by the spin he got some flat spots , but he remained unstoppable .
Too bad it didn't rained ....

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      07-31-2022, 03:28 PM   #204
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...and they bring Chas in again for softs
Yep , the Italian Clowns did it again !
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      07-31-2022, 03:32 PM   #205
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As I said : This wasn't a Red Bull track with the slower turns .
This was actually a Ferrari track ! But as usual the Italian strategy Clowns failed completely !
Too bad ! The Ferrari drivers are Ferrari'd , again ! Hards in the colder temps.. Ohhh...Man what a beginners mistake !

The Red Bull pitstop undercut was outstanding and MAX performed the impossible today !

MAX's number 2 WDC is in the pocket now
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      07-31-2022, 03:34 PM   #206
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Yeah. I heard by the spin he got some flat spots , but he remained unstoppable .
Too bad it didn't rained ....

MAX is #UnLeashTheLion !
Well earned rest now for the Lion and Checo then the Orange Army fave's at
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Wish it was next week.
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Even Max's 360 spin was a laugh for Max controlled to a tee.
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      07-31-2022, 03:42 PM   #208
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Charles had no idea what the strategy was...



There's only one emotion in this interview: defeat.
Too bad . Yeah defeat and despondency , that's because Charlie knows it already from in France that his WDC is actually lost ..
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      07-31-2022, 03:46 PM   #209
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Well earned rest now for the Lion and Checo then the Orange Army fave's at
Spa and Zandvoort
Wish it was next week .
Yeah . 3 weeks will feel like an eternity !
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      07-31-2022, 04:11 PM   #210
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Oh Ferrari what are you putting doing, you yet again have a great car but with either mistakes, reliability issues or stupid stupid strategy’s you are going to be nowhere.

This is Max’s season to win, it would have to be a complete failure in the second half for him not to walk it now. Perez seems to have gone off the boil a little but mistakes and issues everywhere else Redbull are likely to get the constructors as well. They have the best balanced car and get through the hiccups well.

A nice blip for Merc and a really strong race, they never really looked like they had the overall place to win but to even challenge is good. Russell yet again showed his class with some great Defense and overtakes and with the softs didn’t get mugged off the line. Hamilton fought through to get 2nd showing he hasn’t lost the speed and still wants to win. Can’t help but think they are going to ditch the zero pod concept and follow the crowd in the second half to see how it works for them before next season.

Norris did well but didn’t have the pace in the race to challenge but managed to stay ahead of the alpines. Hope McLaren get back up the front.

Overall the racing this year is great and the changes to the rules have done the job it’s great to watch them all following closely. I hope they don’t all follow Aston and they close that rear wing loophole. Enjoy the break all see you in a few weeks and the news of Porsche and Audi coming into F1 soon.
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Charlie's biggest competition is Ferrari !
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      07-31-2022, 04:59 PM   #212
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Yeah . 3 weeks will feel like an eternity !
I'm still getting my head around Ferrari.
Softs were fitted to Sainz and finally Chas's car, which went off quick, obvious question is why were mediums not fitted
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Charles had no idea what the strategy was...



There's only one emotion in this interview: defeat.
Hopefully Leclerc returns after the summer break with new energy and better team management. He deserves way better than this.

Still 9 races, 1 Sprint and 9 'fastest lap' points up for grabs: one may say that the window of opportunity to become WDC this season, has vanished for him. But mathematically it's still possible. And he certainly has the skills to pull it off. Sainz should assist him as his wingman. But the margin for error has become narrow and Verstappen takes no prisoners. This is going to be an uphill battle for Leclerc.
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obvious question is why were mediums not fitted
They had to use one other compound. Max started on softs so he could race the rest of the race on mediums. But SAI and LEC started on mediums
Obviously 1x soft and 2x mediums (and do long runs on those) was the correct combination (in any order).
That hards were not the right choice was already clear early in the race (when kmag chose them) and also 33% in the race when Alo and Oco chose them. Not enough temperature in them.
When LEC got the hards, I think pretty much all the TV commentators across the different channels named it a bald or strange move...
Luckily SAI was clear enough that he wanted softs, but in reality the team should already know that, just as they should know how long the drivers should stay out on their tires.
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They had to use one other compound. Max started on softs so he could race the rest of the race on mediums. But SAI and LEC started on mediums
Obviously 1x soft and 2x mediums (and do long runs on those) was the correct combination (in any order).
That hards were not the right choice was already clear early in the race (when kmag chose them) and also 33% in the race when Alo and Oco chose them. Not enough temperature in them.
When LEC got the hards, I think pretty much all the TV commentators across the different channels named it a bald or strange move...
Luckily SAI was clear enough that he wanted softs, but in reality the team should already know that, just as they should know how long the drivers should stay out on their tires.
Sainz knew then but Chas trusted Ferrari too much in putting the hards on which he thought they knew what they were doing.
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Amazing drive from Max. Starts 9th on a track which is basically a parking lot, spins once, and still wins. Wow.

The new cars really do allow for better passing, we saw quite a bit of action at this track for once!

Finally, wtf Ferrari. It’s just unbelievable their errors.
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Finally, wtf Ferrari. It’s just unbelievable their errors.
Sadly, at his point, it's not unbelievable but expected.
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Amazing drive from Max. Starts 9th on a track which is basically a parking lot, spins once, and still wins. Wow.

The new cars really do allow for better passing, we saw quite a bit of action at this track for once!

Finally, wtf Ferrari. It’s just unbelievable their errors.
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Sadly, at his point, it's not unbelievable but expected.
Tomorrow morning I fear the worst for BINO and Ferrari in the Italian sports newspaper La Gazzetta Dello Sport .
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      07-31-2022, 10:31 PM   #220
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It was the clutch from MAX . That was probably the cause from his 360 spin .
OC. It was a very scary moment...
I just heard , at that moment adjustments were going on ...
What do you mean adjustments were going on? Max was messing with clutch settings? I though nothing can be done to the car by the pit during a race?
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