[Murf993]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

Totally agree with you. History needs to be preserved, even when it's ugly, uncomfortable, and not how we want to remember things.

However, in the case of Dr. Seuss, this was a decision by his foundation that publishes his books and curates his post posthumous image. They decided to pull their own material which is entirely within their rights.

From the article Esteban posted:

"Dr. Seuss Enterprises, which manages his publishing catalogue, says it made the move to protect and preserve the author’s legacy.

“These books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong,” the business said in a statement on Tuesday.

“Ceasing sales of these books is only part of our commitment and our broader plan to ensure Dr. Seuss Enterprises’ catalog represents and supports all communities and families.”

It begs the question, why? Did they get pressure from the SJW set or was it woke virtue signalling from inside the organization? Regardless, there has been an awful lot of outcry about the decision.

[Buug959]

The sun really made some drivers... um...frisky yesterday. I hope it was worth it. An excerpt from todays police report:

Halifax Regional Police charged 20 people with driving in excess of the posted speed limit yesterday.

At approximately 1 p.m. a community response officer observed a car travelling at a high rate of speed on Highway 118 in Dartmouth near Wright Avenue. The officer captured the vehicle’s speed at 158 km/h in a 100 km/h zone. The 17-year-old female youth from Enfield was ticketed for stunting under the Motor Vehicle Act.

At approximately 2 p.m. a member of the Traffic Unit observed a car travelling at a high rate of speed on Highway 102 in Halifax near Bayers Road. The officer captured the vehicle’s speed at 160 km/h in a 50 km/h zone. The 32-year-old Truro man was ticketed for stunting under the Motor Vehicle Act.


Stunting is a charge that is automatically laid when a vehicle is travelling more than 50 km/h over the speed limit. In addition, both drivers were suspended from driving for seven days and the vehicles they were driving were seized and will be impounded for seven days. The fine in Nova Scotia for stunting is $2,422.50 and six points are assigned to the driver’s record.

[Buug959]

Originally Posted by xdrive_320i

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Edit: oop not sure why it's taking up that much space

If that's the case, shouldn't ALL BMW's have those rims??? I mean, doesn't EVERY BMW driver tailgate ALL the time? Oh and we NEVER use signal lights either.

[Maestro]

Originally Posted by Murf993

Not to make this political, but if you ignore history you are destined to repeat it.

Actually the useful idiots are not just ignoring history they are trying to rewrite and that is far worse than not learning from history since they are destine to create something far worse since they they comparing to something that was not real in the first place.

[Noneya]

Originally Posted by Murf993

It begs the question, why? Did they get pressure from the SJW set or was it woke virtue signalling from inside the organization? Regardless, there has been an awful lot of outcry about the decision.

You're quoting the answer to that question and asking it again "These books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong"

[freakystyly]

Originally Posted by Noneya

You're quoting the answer to that question and asking it again "These books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong"

I guess the point is that this cancel culture stuff needs barriers.

Is the library the next step?




I know this is so last month but...

[kscarrol]

Originally Posted by Noneya

You're quoting the answer to that question and asking it again "These books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong"

Edit: I'm just going to delete my response and all I'll say is turn away from this discussion, the politics are creeping in.

[Noneya]

Originally Posted by freakystyly

I guess the point is that this cancel culture stuff needs barriers.

Is the library the next step?




I know this is so last month but...

Would you like to force businesses to do things they presumably consider unprofitable to quell your fear of "cancel culture"?

[rwheels]

Originally Posted by Maestro

Actually the useful idiots are not just ignoring history they are trying to rewrite and that is far worse than not learning from history since they are destine to create something far worse since they they comparing to something that was not real in the first place.

Perspectives are completely different from the receiving and the giving end of these "cancel cultures."

[rwheels]

Originally Posted by kscarrol

Edit: I'm just going to delete my response and all I'll say is turn away from this discussion, the politics are creeping in.

Can I give you 10 likes? How's this?

[freakystyly]

Originally Posted by rwheels

Perspectives are completely different from the receiving and the giving end of these "cancel cultures."

Absolutely, I think denying or ignoring history is the big difference right now. I'm not arguing that things that happen now shouldn't be different. What happens today writes the history for later, that's what history is.

I'm just against erasing history because it was bad.

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by X3MO

Lau

So true!

[rwheels]

Originally Posted by freakystyly

Absolutely, I think denying or ignoring history is the big difference right now. I'm not arguing that things that happen now shouldn't be different. What happens today writes the history for later, that's what history is.

I'm just against erasing history because it was bad.

I agree with your point. We can never erase our history; we can just continue to mature.

“When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me.”

But we can all agree to disagree, and get on with the funny. This is why we're here.

[Lady Jane]

Originally Posted by Murf993

I want to be this guy when I grow up.

I can arrange it. I'll get you the wheelchair. And put your wandering hands in handcuffs. And I will be confiscating that little key on your keyring. I know you have one. He he he...

[flybigjet]

For frell's sake.....

CONTEXT.

People need to learn to apply it.

Were Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, *insert name here*, etc. racist?

The answer is "probably to undoubtedly"...... IF you judge by 21st century mores.

However..... FOR THEIR DAY AND AGE..... they were extremely enlightened individuals in comparison to their contemporaries.

I'm so, so, SO sick of people using the lens of their beliefs of today to judge people in the past.

It's all about the context. Would Lincoln be considered racist today? yes. Would Lincoln be considered racist in the 1860's? He would have been (and was) judged to be a progressive and thought that slavery was abhorrent enough to risk the fate of the entire Union on that belief.

He was also a realist to know how far he could successfully push, and at what point he'd lose the backing of the public/Congress/financiers, etc. who's support he needed to achieve his vision of freeing the slaves.

He knew he could only push so far, and had to compromise on a lot of things he probably didn't want to in order to be successful in his quest.

But, let's cancel and denigrate him because he wasn't "woke" enough from a 21st century perspective and offends 21'st century sensibilities, ok?

Context. It's what history is made of.

Sheesh.

R.

[rwheels]

When dads babysit.

[Wolf 335]

Originally Posted by X3MO

Mm

Wrong thread man.

But thank you.

[Buug959]

Originally Posted by X3MO

Lau

LOL I gotta steal this one.

[rwheels]

Is this good enough?

[kscarrol]

Originally Posted by Lady Jane

I can arrange it. I'll get you the wheelchair. And put your wandering hands in handcuffs. And I will be confiscating that little key on your keyring. I know you have one. He he he...

Me thinks Lady Jane is a dominatrix when she's not nursing...

[rwheels]

Originally Posted by Lady Jane

I can arrange it. I'll get you the wheelchair. And put your wandering hands in handcuffs. And I will be confiscating that little key on your keyring. I know you have one. He he he...

You mean, like this?.

[Noneya]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

For frell's sake.....

CONTEXT.

People need to learn to apply it.

Were Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, *insert name here*, etc. racist?

The answer is "probably to undoubtedly"...... IF you judge by 21st century mores.

However..... FOR THEIR DAY AND AGE..... they were extremely enlightened individuals in comparison to their contemporaries.

I'm so, so, SO sick of people using the lens of their beliefs of today to judge people in the past.

It's all about the context. Would Lincoln be considered racist today? yes. Would Lincoln be considered racist in the 1860's? He would (and was) judged to be a progressive and thought that slavery was abhorrent enough to risk the fate of the entire Union on that belief.

He was also a realist to know how far he could successfully push, and at what point he'd lose the backing of the public/Congress/financiers, etc. who's support he needed to achieve his vision of freeing the slaves.

He knew he could only push so far, and had to compromise on a lot of things he probably didn't want to in order to be successful in his quest.

But, let's cancel and denigrate him because he wasn't "woke" enough from a 21st century perspective and offends 21'st century sensibilities, ok?

Context. It's what history is made of.

Sheesh.

R.

I agree with a lot of what you wrote, however there is nothing wrong with pointing out that together with the enlightened attitudes they were also *insert bad quality*. You can still celebrate the good things they did while frowning upon the bad.

A lot of the people decrying "cancel culture" are in fact the ones that want to sweep the bad stuff under the rug and "erase history".