[Murf993]

Cop shocks, cop tires, cop motor 440 plant.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Murf993

Cop shocks, cop tires, cop motor 440 plant.

The new "Bluesmobile."

[Mandi90TT]

Originally Posted by Lady Jane

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You know, I have to comment on this.

I'm NOT part of the current generation. I'm pretty close to half a century old (won't say which side)

I have 26 years active duty USMC, including multiple combat tours in Iraq and AFG, and a star for second award on my Combat Action Ribbon, as well as a valor in combat award. I've been shot at, mortared, and blown up, and have shot back, and called for fire on enemy insurgents.

When we used to have a political section, I was one of the more right leaning posters, although not alt-right, as some of the posters were. RD, however, would probably consider me alt-right.

And guess what?

I'm trans.

Specifically, a transgender woman.

Dave90TT is probably not the right name for me anymore, and hasn't really been for over a year.

Being trans is not a joke, nor something to joke about. It f'ing sucks. If I could wish this away, and be a cisgender woman, or a cisgender man, I would, in a heartbeat.

But one thing it's not, is it's not a choice. 99% of trans people don't have a choice in this. The only thing we have a choice on is whether to transition or not.

You know, what, though? Despite being trans not being a joke, many, many people make malicious jokes about it, including on this thread.

Many, multiple studies have shown that transgender people, IF they receive proper treatment (including transitioning) AND have accepting family, friends, and acquaintances, have a suicide rate that is pretty much exactly equal to the rest of the population. However, when denied treatment due to transphobic laws and insurance companies, and when surrounded by people that think being trans is something to joke about, and be malicious about, the suicide rate of trans people quickly rises to the 41% you often see quoted.

To be fair, while I believe that suicide is personal choice, and only the person considering it has any power over it, there is no doubt in my mind that bigotry, discrimination, hatred, and malicious 'jokes' such as this, and others I have seen on this thread definitely contribute to it.

So, tl;dr, take your transphobic jokes and shove them so far up your fourth point of contact that they come out your mouth.

[Lady Jane]

Originally Posted by Dave 90TT

You know, I have to comment on this.
I'm trans.
So, tl;dr, take your transphobic jokes and shove them so far up your fourth point of contact that they come out your mouth.

This is the LOL thread. Congratulations on being a trans. Don't push your life style on the rest of us Just saying.

[Mandi90TT]

Originally Posted by Onesie

He was adding to the LOL, albeit in text and not a pic. Some are missing the humour.

She, and it wasn't humor. Nor humour.

[Mandi90TT]

Originally Posted by Lady Jane

This is the LOL thread. Congratulations on being a trans. Don't push your life style on the rest of us Just saying.

It's not 'a trans'. Trans is an adjective, not a noun.

Humor is not humor when it contributes to someone's death.

[RickFLM4]

So that’s the way this thread ends? Well that sucks.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by CTinline-six

I had a friend in college who had one, and he thought it was the coolest thing for about a week.

Truth. I had a friend in high school who's parents bought him one as a first car. The mailbox light alone made traffic on the highways slow down. When he put the light bar on the roof as a volunteer fireman about a year later, it seemed like EVERYBODY got out of his way.....

[Dino GT]

;;;

[Dino GT]

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[Dino GT]

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[No one]

Originally Posted by Dave 90TT

I have 26 years active duty USMC, including multiple combat tours in Iraq and AFG, and a star for second award on my Combat Action Ribbon, as well as a valor in combat award. I've been shot at, mortared, and blown up, and have shot back, and called for fire on enemy insurgents.

And guess what?

I'm trans.

Specifically, a transgender woman.

They use real women for combat in Israel, reportedly (men must stay at home meanwhile, I believe ). Now that seems to make sense. Women's cruelty is unmatched, after all.

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by Dave 90TT

You know, I have to comment on this.

I'm NOT part of the current generation. I'm pretty close to half a century old (won't say which side)

I have 26 years active duty USMC, including multiple combat tours in Iraq and AFG, and a star for second award on my Combat Action Ribbon, as well as a valor in combat award. I've been shot at, mortared, and blown up, and have shot back, and called for fire on enemy insurgents.

When we used to have a political section, I was one of the more right leaning posters, although not alt-right, as some of the posters were. RD, however, would probably consider me alt-right.

And guess what?

I'm trans.

Specifically, a transgender woman.

Dave90TT is probably not the right name for me anymore, and hasn't really been for over a year.

Being trans is not a joke, nor something to joke about. It f'ing sucks. If I could wish this away, and be a cisgender woman, or a cisgender man, I would, in a heartbeat.

But one thing it's not, is it's not a choice. 99% of trans people don't have a choice in this. The only thing we have a choice on is whether to transition or not.

You know, what, though? Despite being trans not being a joke, many, many people make malicious jokes about it, including on this thread.

Many, multiple studies have shown that transgender people, IF they receive proper treatment (including transitioning) AND have accepting family, friends, and acquaintances, have a suicide rate that is pretty much exactly equal to the rest of the population. However, when denied treatment due to transphobic laws and insurance companies, and when surrounded by people that think being trans is something to joke about, and be malicious about, the suicide rate of trans people quickly rises to the 41% you often see quoted.

To be fair, while I believe that suicide is personal choice, and only the person considering it has any power over it, there is no doubt in my mind that bigotry, discrimination, hatred, and malicious 'jokes' such as this, and others I have seen on this thread definitely contribute to it.

So, tl;dr, take your transphobic jokes and shove them so far up your fourth point of contact that they come out your mouth.

Thank you for speaking up and sharing your story. I have a family member who recently announced that they are trans. To say the least, its been an adjustment for me to think of them in this new identity. The family is very supportive but we occasionally goof and call them by their given name and use the wrong pronoun when referring to them. We are trying our best and they understand that we are new to this and that we are pretty ignorant, if I'm being honest, about their feelings and what they are going through. I am so proud of them for giving us a break and allowing us to learn how to unconditionally love them in this transition.

That said, I think your attack on the person who posted the joke was pretty brutal and over the top. While I am supportive of people who are trans, I am still not and probably never will be totally understanding of what it is to be trans. It will take time, generations possibly, for society to come around. I think it would be a mistake to automatically label people as exhibiting bigotry, discrimination, hatred, and maliciousness. It could be that they are simply ignorant and lack understanding. While unfortunate that we all just don't all get it and act sensitively and appropriately, expecting immediate understanding and acceptance is probably unrealistic. Attacking those who appear offensive through lack of understanding or ignorance is not going to expedite anything.

Thank you for your service. All the best to you.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by sygazelle

Thank you for speaking up and sharing your story. I have a family member who recently announced that they are trans. To say the least, its been an adjustment for me to think of them in this new identity. The family is very supportive but we occasionally goof and call them by their given name and use the wrong pronoun when referring to them. We are trying our best and they understand that we are new to this and that we are pretty ignorant, if I'm being honest, about their feelings and what they are going through. I am so proud of them for giving us a break and allowing us to learn how to unconditionally love them in this transition.

That said, I think your attack on the person who posted the joke was pretty brutal and over the top. While I am supportive of people who are trans, I am still not and probably never will be totally understanding of what it is to be trans. It will take time, generations possibly, for society to come around. I think it would be a mistake to automatically label people as exhibiting bigotry, discrimination, hatred, and maliciousness. It could be that they are simply ignorant and lack understanding. While unfortunate that we all just don't all get it and act sensitively and appropriately, expecting immediate understanding and acceptance is probably unrealistic. Attacking those who appear offensive through lack of understanding or ignorance is not going to expedite anything.

Thank you for your service. All the best to you.

Well said, it seems that there is little we can joke about or laugh at anymore without fear of offending someone. I have worked extensively in the gay (LGBQT2 etc) community, I don't know their challenges but am aware of many of them. I too appreciate your service and you decision to identify. I think in some respects many identifiable groups do themselves a disservice with their response and over the top offence when they feel slighted or offended. Peace.

[Lady Jane]

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[King Rudi]

Did we all just get the Dave Chapelle treatment? I still don't have a clue what it must be like, to be trans; (forgive me, I just can't wrap my mind around it as it isn't something I'm accustomed to) but I can now tell you how Dave Chapelle feels.

Originally Posted by Lady Jane

This is the LOL thread. Congratulations on being a trans. Don't push your life style on the rest of us Just saying.

I know you don't like me....but still.....

[unluky]

bd

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by Dave 90TT

You know, I have to comment on this.

I'm NOT part of the current generation. I'm pretty close to half a century old (won't say which side)

I have 26 years active duty USMC, including multiple combat tours in Iraq and AFG, and a star for second award on my Combat Action Ribbon, as well as a valor in combat award. I've been shot at, mortared, and blown up, and have shot back, and called for fire on enemy insurgents.

When we used to have a political section, I was one of the more right leaning posters, although not alt-right, as some of the posters were. RD, however, would probably consider me alt-right.

And guess what?

I'm trans.

Specifically, a transgender woman.

Dave90TT is probably not the right name for me anymore, and hasn't really been for over a year.

Being trans is not a joke, nor something to joke about. It f'ing sucks. If I could wish this away, and be a cisgender woman, or a cisgender man, I would, in a heartbeat.

But one thing it's not, is it's not a choice. 99% of trans people don't have a choice in this. The only thing we have a choice on is whether to transition or not.

You know, what, though? Despite being trans not being a joke, many, many people make malicious jokes about it, including on this thread.

Many, multiple studies have shown that transgender people, IF they receive proper treatment (including transitioning) AND have accepting family, friends, and acquaintances, have a suicide rate that is pretty much exactly equal to the rest of the population. However, when denied treatment due to transphobic laws and insurance companies, and when surrounded by people that think being trans is something to joke about, and be malicious about, the suicide rate of trans people quickly rises to the 41% you often see quoted.

To be fair, while I believe that suicide is personal choice, and only the person considering it has any power over it, there is no doubt in my mind that bigotry, discrimination, hatred, and malicious 'jokes' such as this, and others I have seen on this thread definitely contribute to it.

So, tl;dr, take your transphobic jokes and shove them so far up your fourth point of contact that they come out your mouth.

Lighten up, Francis. Or Francine.

[Dino GT]

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[Dino GT]

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[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Dave 90TT

You know, I have to comment on this.

I'm NOT part of the current generation. I'm pretty close to half a century old (won't say which side)

I have 26 years active duty USMC, including multiple combat tours in Iraq and AFG, and a star for second award on my Combat Action Ribbon, as well as a valor in combat award. I've been shot at, mortared, and blown up, and have shot back, and called for fire on enemy insurgents.

When we used to have a political section, I was one of the more right leaning posters, although not alt-right, as some of the posters were. RD, however, would probably consider me alt-right.

And guess what?

I'm trans.

Specifically, a transgender woman.

Dave90TT is probably not the right name for me anymore, and hasn't really been for over a year.

Being trans is not a joke, nor something to joke about. It f'ing sucks. If I could wish this away, and be a cisgender woman, or a cisgender man, I would, in a heartbeat.

But one thing it's not, is it's not a choice. 99% of trans people don't have a choice in this. The only thing we have a choice on is whether to transition or not.

You know, what, though? Despite being trans not being a joke, many, many people make malicious jokes about it, including on this thread.

Many, multiple studies have shown that transgender people, IF they receive proper treatment (including transitioning) AND have accepting family, friends, and acquaintances, have a suicide rate that is pretty much exactly equal to the rest of the population. However, when denied treatment due to transphobic laws and insurance companies, and when surrounded by people that think being trans is something to joke about, and be malicious about, the suicide rate of trans people quickly rises to the 41% you often see quoted.

To be fair, while I believe that suicide is personal choice, and only the person considering it has any power over it, there is no doubt in my mind that bigotry, discrimination, hatred, and malicious 'jokes' such as this, and others I have seen on this thread definitely contribute to it.

So, tl;dr, take your transphobic jokes and shove them so far up your fourth point of contact that they come out your mouth.

Transphobic = A people or person that disagree with Dave90TT

Discrimination hatred malicious = A people or person that disagree with Dave90TT

There you go. That should straighten this out for you. It’s always best that we just lay out the truth. It may work for some people but not for all. I get just as angry when a person tries to label me as a hater because I don’t buy into and support their lifestyle. What’s good for the goose……