[squishy]

The number of hypotheticals in this thread is actually starting to give me a headache.

The fact of the matter is, not a single individuals walking on this planet can say for certainty what the outcome would have been had the circumstances been different.

I respect the ruling and have no opinions for or against it. Act like an uncivilized adult, you get treated as an uncivilized adult. Wilson did what he saw fit to take control of the situation. Criticize his judgment all you want, you weren't in the position he was in.

[kevinbahnz]

Originally Posted by squishy

The number of hypotheticals in this thread is actually starting to give me a headache.

The fact of the matter is, not a single individuals walking on this planet can say for certainty what the outcome would have been had the circumstances been different.

I respect the ruling and have no opinions for or against it. Act like an uncivilized adult, you get treated as an uncivilized adult. Wilson did what he saw fit to take control of the situation. Criticize his judgment all you want, you weren't in the position he was in.

That was so last week, we're on the subject of Eric Garner now. get with it maann.

[squishy]

Originally Posted by kevinbahnz

That was so last week, we're on the subject of Eric Garner now. get with it maann.

Didn't read far enough apparently.

Edit: Ahh, I was wondering where the chokehold came into play on Brown. Haha

[kevinbahnz]

Originally Posted by squishy

Didn't read far enough apparently.

Edit: Ahh, I was wondering where the chokehold came into play on Brown. Haha

and the 2000# Gator.

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by squishy

The number of hypotheticals in this thread is actually starting to give me a headache.

The fact of the matter is, not a single individuals walking on this planet can say for certainty what the outcome would have been had the circumstances been different.

I respect the ruling and have no opinions for or against it. Act like an uncivilized adult, you get treated as an uncivilized adult. Wilson did what he saw fit to take control of the situation. Criticize his judgment all you want, you weren't in the position he was in.

AMEN!

I am a bit surprised charges weren't brought in the Garner case.

The analogies and baseless assumptions are ridiculous in here. You all make me want to walk to the nearest ICU and start second-guessing all of the decisions being made in there because - you know - this one time I played doctor as a kid and all the other kids thought I was good at it, so I should be allowed to tell doctors and nurses how they should be doing their jobs. In a couple days I'll probably be ready to instruct and audit the Neurologists.

"He said he couldn't breathe, they should have gotten off him at that point." I'm sorry, that has me so close to tossing the R word out here. One is clearly clueless if he/she thinks that statement made by a desperate perp should be taken with any merit. The boy who cried wolf has come and gone a thousand times on that front. They scream all kinds of bloody murder. The more cell phones and witnesses they have, the more dramatic it gets.

We live in reality people. Well at least most of us do. Some of you obviously don't.

[Sara]

Originally Posted by kevinbahnz

That was so last week, we're on the subject of Eric Garner now. get with it maann.

[squishy]

Originally Posted by kevinbahnz

and the 2000# Gator.

Didn't Sara bring that in as an analogy though?

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

this is really the bottom line. A world that didn't need law enforcement would be lovely. I would really like to not have to worry about anyone doing me any harm, stealing my stuff, raping my wife or daughter.

But that isn't the world we live in.

If you don't want to get your ass beat by the cops, don't break the law, not even the small ones that you don't agree with. Even if you didn't break the law and don't want to get your ass beat by the cops, don't resist arrest. Get arrested and sue for unlawful arrest, get a nice settlement.

These aren't difficult concepts for rational humans to grasp.

So if I get pulled over for going 7 mph over the posted speed limit, I should get my ass beat by the cops?

Sound logic. One would think a reasoned response would be to hold law enforcement official to a higher standard as it is their job to serve and to protect. I don't see either instance being upheld in that video.

Part of me thinks that years of dealing with urban neighborhoods have conditioned these police to just have little in the way of professionalism towards the people they interact with since I'd imagine these guys do deal with some shady characters. Another part of me thinks that maybe the way they're trained could possibly be an issue. Like that cop who shot and killed that child in Cleveland who had a toy gun (which admittedly looked convincing). With things like the terror attacks in Boston, mass shootings in schools, malls, etc, are cops being trained to deal with seemingly simple scenarios as though they're terror events or events that could lead to a mass shooting?

[Sara]

Originally Posted by kevinbahnz

and the 2000# Gator.

.

[Sara]

Originally Posted by squishy

Didn't Sara bring that in as an analogy though?

I bet he could have successfully arrested Eric.

Just sayin.

[squishy]

Originally Posted by Sara504

Just sayin.

[grimlock]

^Yes, and it's ironic he's dead now..

[Billup]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

So if I get pulled over for going 7 mph over the posted speed limit, I should get my ass beat by the cops?

Sound logic. One would think a reasoned response would be to hold law enforcement official to a higher standard as it is their job to serve and to protect. I don't see either instance being upheld in that video.

Yes. In fact, they should get out the Billy clubs and make it worth while.


I think we can all agree that you should get your ass beat by the cops if you "resist arrest". If you do something wrong and comply, life goes on. It's amazing how that works.

[squishy]

Originally Posted by grimlock

^Yes, and it's ironic he's dead now..

I wouldn't say "ironic", more "convenient".

[Sara]

Originally Posted by grimlock

^Yes, and it's ironic he's dead now..

A fucking stingray.

[Billup]

Originally Posted by Sara504

I bet he could have successfully arrested Eric.

Just sayin.

The guy got killed by a Stingray. For fucks sake, he could have at least gotten killed by a gator. I'm going to have to side with Eric on this one. Sorry Crocodile Dundee, may you rest in peace.

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by Billup

Yes. In fact, they should get out the Billy clubs and make it worth while.


I think we can all agree that you should get your ass beat by the cops if you "resist arrest". If you do something wrong and comply, life goes on. It's amazing how that works.

He wasn't resisting arrest. They didn't even have a reason to arrest him, they never found cigarettes on him. They didn't bother searching until he was dead anyway.

I'm not sure how much you know about the law, but generally the process works in the reverse.

But if you want to be ignorant to things like that, knock yourself out.

[grimlock]

Originally Posted by squishy

I wouldn't say "ironic", more "convenient".

? how so

Originally Posted by Sara504

A fucking stingray.

what do you think he was doing to that stingray? having play-tea set with it?

[grimlock]

Originally Posted by Billup

The guy got killed by a Stingray. For fucks sake, he could have at least gotten killed by a gator. I'm going to have to side with Eric on this one. Sorry Crocodile Dundee, may you rest in peace.

yeah missed the part about him being FOUR HUNDRED pounds

[nagisak31]

Lol Internet tough guys.

Maybe some of you should be put in a choke hold by a guy who knows what he is doin . See how that ends up for you.

Oh I forgot. You are all mother fuckin badasses.

[Billup]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

He wasn't resisting arrest. They didn't even have a reason to arrest him, they never found cigarettes on him. They didn't bother searching until he was dead anyway.

I'm not sure how much you know about the law, but generally the process works in the reverse.

But if you want to be ignorant to things like that, knock yourself out.

I know everything about the law. Not only am I on the internet, but I am an American, so I know everything there is to know about everything. Go ahead and ask me anything, I'll tell you about it.


Are you saying they all should have shoved their hands in his pockets while they were on top of him?


Where in the video was he complying with law enforcement...., except when he was on the bottom?

[squishy]

Originally Posted by grimlock

? how so

The occurrence did not, "[happen] in the opposite way to what is expected, and typically causing wry amusement because of this" (OxfordDictionaries). It was more a matter of convenience that he died as a result of screwing with a stingray.