[Axius]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

Where in Bumville do you live?

We've got three 100 yd indoor ranges with in 10 miles. Three 200yd outdoor ranges within 20 miles and a 1000yd range within 30 miles.

Range options here are really limited, and it sucks. There's one outdoor 200yd range maybe 20 minutes away, the rest are all indoor 25 yard that are nearby. Unless you're a primo member at TSC they have a 75 yard indoor.

I usually just shoot on the hunting land.

Originally Posted by RJ_

gotcha. I'll mix it up. There's a good outdoor range nearby, but it's also cold as shit here for several months out of the year.

If you don't shoot a lot, what's the point of spending all the money on equipment....catch 22.

Yeah I keep steel and brass, the indoor is small here, but I like to shoot once in a while during winter if don't feel like going to land.

Uhhhh, if you don't shoot but buy equipment it's an asset. Imagine one day some lunatic puts a ban on guns and you can't buy them anymore. Imagine one day zombies walk the earth, whatta you gonna use? Steak knives? What if a cheetah is charging you?

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by PINeely

No indoor ranges near me at all, the jealousy is real. We have some BAD ASS outdoor ranges but it's hotter than hell to shoot outdoors in the summer.

There is an outdoor range right in the middle of St. Pete called the Wyoming Antelope Club. They have several USPSA and IDPA matches every week. They have outdoor bunkers of sorts set up with different courses for these matches. I haven't been because the time when i can go is middle of summer and as you said, it's hot as balls.

[Golddots]

If you shoot enough, you'll make your own.

[1MOREMOD]

I'm limited to 25 indoor and 100 outdoor right now gonna go zero iron and rds on arsenal today

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by Golddots

If you shoot enough, you'll make your own.

Depends on how much money you have or how anal you are.

For me, it's always cheaper to buy them than make them because my time is more valuable than the investment of loading my own. Nor am i that anal. I shoot for tactical accuracy, not pin point accuracy. Even the cheapest ammo you can buy is tactical accurate.

If i were to spend my Saturdays at the 1000yd range shooting competition long distance, i'd likely make my own. But then it wouldn't be for the savings.

I have a buddy who loads his own and shoots in weekly matches at the WAC (video above) His set up does all processes with each pull of the lever which has increased his production by 5x. (used to be 5 lever pulls for each round, now after the first five pulls, each pull produces a round) But his cost, without his time factored in, is only a couple of pennies per round cheaper than what you can buy factory reloads for. But what he really loads for is to make the perfect round for his race guns. By fine tuning the rounds, putting just enough powder in to cycle the slide, he can get back on target quicker taking milliseconds off of his shooting times.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by Axius

Range options here are really limited, and it sucks. There's one outdoor 200yd range maybe 20 minutes away, the rest are all indoor 25 yard that are nearby. Unless you're a primo member at TSC they have a 75 yard indoor.

I usually just shoot on the hunting land.

That's always the most fun!

Shooting at my friends tree farm is the best. We always set up some goofy stuff and compete with each other. Much more fun that static paper shooting.

[Axius]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

That's always the most fun!

Shooting at my friends tree farm is the best. We always set up some goofy stuff and compete with each other. Much more fun that static paper shooting.

It really is a blast. We each set up 10 green army men and each get 15 shots, usually only about 50 yards out so hard to see them. Actually shot my shield 9 one day and found a bullet just resting on top of a log, not mushroomed or anything, just a pretty little bullet lol.

[silvergray545]

Originally Posted by RJ_

Seems like it would have to be something you find enjoyable otherwise the time and money isn't really worth it.

If you shoot it alot, it's gonna cost a ton of time. If you don't shoot a lot, what's the point of spending all the money on equipment....catch 22.

You hit the nail on the head. To understand how much I shoot, I filled this container up in one summer. The photo was actually taken at the end of July. Mind you, this is only the 12 gauge I used. I have firearms that are 9mm, 45 ACP, .223/5.56, etc. Imagine how much time it would take to reload all of those.

[EJT86]

Originally Posted by silvergray545

You hit the nail on the head. To understand how much I shoot, I filled this container up in one summer. The photo was actually taken at the end of July. Mind you, this is only the 12 gauge I used. I have firearms that are 9mm, 45 ACP, .223/5.56, etc. Imagine how much time it would take to reload all of those.

Put a string through them and hang them up for Christmas

[imserious]

Originally Posted by ASAP

Buy reman brass from Freedom munitions... you're welcome.

I may check this out, thanks.

Wolf Gold also has similar pricing and is brass.

[silvergray545]

Originally Posted by EJT86

Put a string through them and hang them up for Christmas

This is a great idea!

[Joekerr]

Out of curiousity, for those who have thought about these things, would you ever use a .45 in a home defense situation or do you think it would punch through walls and cause an issue re: possibly going into neighbours?

TLDR for Axius - home defense - .45 or nah?

[1MOREMOD]

Zeroed iron and rds on ak today went well. Front post needs to be pushed and don't have tool was off 2 inches left. Rds set 25 yard zero and group was 1.25 spread for 5 shots. Will give me effective 0-250 range to work with.

[EJT86]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

Out of curiousity, for those who have thought about these things, would you ever use a .45 in a home defense situation or do you think it would punch through walls and cause an issue re: possibly going into neighbours?

TLDR for Axius - home defense - .45 or nah?

I say nah it's a lil much...best case scenario you're redoing your walls and floors out of pocket. I use .40 for the home and carry pistol I've heard some say that more than needed for home. Go with a smaller caliber and more rounds per clip I say unless u live in a state like me and can only have 10 either way

[1MOREMOD]

I use 7.62, haven't hit a neighbor yet

[EJT86]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

I use 7.62, haven't hit a neighbor yet

Give 30mm a try

[1MOREMOD]

I'd like to please

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by EJT86

I say nah it's a lil much...best case scenario you're redoing your walls and floors out of pocket. I use .40 for the home and carry pistol I've heard some say that more than needed for home. Go with a smaller caliber and more rounds per clip I say unless u live in a state like me and can only have 10 either way

I live in a bit more of a restrictive 'state' but can have a max of 10 rounds in a magazine if it is only designed to fit in a handgun. If the magazine and caliber is designed to be used by either a rifle and a handgun, then the limit becomes 5 rounds regardless of whether it is being used in a handgun.

I'll keep it in mind...but since .45 is what I have, it is what would be used if it ever came to that. Hopefully never will, and I can't imagine ever having time to get to it in that type of situation unless the bad guys phone ahead, but good to know it probably packs too much punch and I should be endeavouring to shoot towards the woods if I can.

[ASAP]

whats a good entry level AK?

Does anyone have any experience with the Zastava N pap?

[RJ_]

Originally Posted by Axius

Uhhhh, if you don't shoot but buy equipment it's an asset. Imagine one day some lunatic puts a ban on guns and you can't buy them anymore. Imagine one day zombies walk the earth, whatta you gonna use? Steak knives? What if a cheetah is charging you?

Scenario 1- become freedom fighter, die in drone strike
Scenario 2- A fucking katana. You watch TWD? Michone is a beast
Scenario 3- catnip

You joining my apocalypse team?

[Axius]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

Out of curiousity, for those who have thought about these things, would you ever use a .45 in a home defense situation or do you think it would punch through walls and cause an issue re: possibly going into neighbours?

TLDR for Axius - home defense - .45 or nah?

I don't see the big deal in a .45, I know a lot of people that use one for home defense. If you carry hollow points, impact point is going to flare the bullet and lose some velocity. Just don't stand in your yard and shoot at the neighbors house.

Originally Posted by RJ_

Scenario 1- become freedom fighter, die in drone strike
Scenario 2- A fucking katana. You watch TWD? Michone is a beast
Scenario 3- catnip

You joining my apocalypse team?

Scenario 2 sounds more my style. Replace 3 with high quality cannabis and 1 with hot blondes with huge tits and we have a deal.

[silvergray545]

Originally Posted by Axius

I don't see the big deal in a .45, I know a lot of people that use one for home defense. If you carry hollow points, impact point is going to flare the bullet and lose some velocity. Just don't stand in your yard and shoot at the neighbors house.

This. 45 ACP is a slow round too.