[MightyMouseTech]

Exactly, and you are not lugging around all that hybrid crap.

[hellrotm]

I would much rather have the new genII Volt. Leases should be cheap. Or even genI. Chris Harris has a good review on the genI.

[gtron]

Originally Posted by Levi

LOL Prius hate. Seen the i3? If Prius had a BMW badge, every BMW fan would drive one.

i3 is hideous.

admittedly, the bmw badge does help but still, i would never... never ever own one.

if i won or was gifted one, i would give it to a charity or sell it.

[1MOREMOD]

Disagree, liked the i3 much more than I thought I would when I drove it.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Disagree, liked the i3 much more than I thought I would when I drove it.

Agreed. It's pretty fun to drive and being rwd, it actually has a touch of steering feel.

[1MOREMOD]

Price is just too high. Would actually consider as a urban vehicle. But don't live in metro area.

[Red Bread]

I do, but the range is just too limited and the Range Extender doesn't interest me. If Chevy gets the Bolt right with a 200 mile range in the low $30k's before incentive, it will be a winner.

[gtron]

i said hideous!

[tvo9]

My wife commutes 120 miles a day, 3 days a week. She wanted a Prius so I got her a 2014 Prius II. She loved the MPG but OMG I don't like that thing a bit.

We traded the Prius after owning it for 10 months. We got a BMW 128i as the replacement.

To the OP: You should consider a diesel, or another high mpg cars, but not the Prius. I strongly not recommend it.

[Route 16]

Originally Posted by tvo9

My wife commutes 120 miles a day, 3 days a week. She wanted a Prius so I got her a 2014 Prius II. She loved the MPG but OMG I don't like that thing a bit.

We traded the Prius after owning it for 10 months. We got a BMW 128i as the replacement.

To the OP: You should consider a diesel, or another high mpg cars, but not the Prius. I strongly not recommend it.

My current mindset would be still have a cheap/low maintenance/high mpg vehicle, then keep waiting for that aw e90 m3. The shit does lack in speeding up to go passed cars or speed up when I need too.

[saxon]

Originally Posted by tvo9

My wife commutes 120 miles a day, 3 days a week. She wanted a Prius so I got her a 2014 Prius II. She loved the MPG but OMG I don't like that thing a bit.

We traded the Prius after owning it for 10 months. We got a BMW 128i as the replacement.

To the OP: You should consider a diesel, or another high mpg cars, but not the Prius. I strongly not recommend it.

what about the prius dont you like?

we have 110,000 on ours, its quiet, rides smooth, has averaged 50mpg and the only thing we've done is bought new tires and changed the oil every 10k miles

its slow, but the trunk/hatch is great and its not meant to be a performance car. i know quite a few people who own performance cars and have a prius as their daily driver

[susuki1220]

lol @ all you prius hater.
Prius is probably the best commuter car existing at the moment on earth with 50mpg and it actually looks legit driving one. I would recommend the plug in version as you can get more mpg out of it. I think they call it empg or something rated at 75. I own both a prius c and a regular prius

[Killramos]

There is a big difference between a performance car and a fun car. A Prius is neither, its a car you drive because you have given up on driving as a hobby and resigned yourself into just getting from a to b as cheaply as possible. Some people might have both a performance car and a prius. I would argue that its likely that in that case both cars were purchased for the badge to show off. I don't know a single automotive enthusiast who would ever consider buying a prius under any circumstance. Not when there are so many better choices out there for affordable cars.

And as i have mentioned before Prius's have next to no benefit to fuel economy when driven out of the city, which hasn't been confirmed but I suspect what the OP is racking up the km doing. I don't know any job that isn't a professional driver ( Taxi, Limo, Delivery, etc.) where you have to drive over 150 km a work day in city traffic.

Prius's are quite expensive for what they are, a small fiesta ST would make a great commuter car for the OP. A Fiesta gets 44 mpg advertised, a Prius would get about the same if not less due to having to drag around the dead weight of the hybrid system you aren't using.

Add in the a prius is going to cost more in maintenance than the ford over the lifetime and on a cost comparison its a no brainer. And again the fiesta is a much more fun car to be in.

[K_style]

You wouldn't know unless you own one.

It was one of my best purchase. I drive quite a bit in traffic. 45+ MPG is tons of $$ saving.
Can't have too much fun if you are stuck in traffic with M. Or any other car...

To OP, not sure if you prefer a new one but I purchased 2010 Prius with 100k miles for $10k last October. I drove 50k miles so far which the battery warranty just expired but I haven't noticed any performance reduction on the battery.

Consider finding your self an used one. I don't think it's the car you want to pay retail for it.

It's a toyota, it will last.

[phantomF80]

We used to have a Gen II Prius, and we were easily averaging 45+ mpg on long freeway commutes. We were actually getting better mpg on the freeway than in the city, but that's likely due to the high speed limit in Irvine. It can be a bit of challenge trying to merge on a busy CA freeway, but that's true with many eco cars.

For those that are suggesting i3, it's a great car if you stay within the electric range. We have only spend about $150 for the 4700 miles we have driven in our i3, and have only used less than a gallon of the gas that was in the Rex tank that came with the car. It's a surprisingly fun car and I actually prefer it over my F80 from time to time, especially when I am tired and want to be lazy and still have fun (one pedal driving is awesome!). The problem is once you go beyond the electric range, it started to sound like you are running a lawn mower in the back of the car. If you are doing long commute without no way of charging the car in between destinations, then i3 is not the right car for you.

[MightyMouseTech]

If looking for a new city car, I would consider the new smart car. They finally got rid of the awful computer controlled true manual tranny, and replaced it with either a 6 speed DCT or a real manual. Three pedals OMG! Might actually be fun with the manual.

Sometimes I miss my old diesel smart and its 80 MPG.

[David70]

To the OP, buying a Prius and lowering it, adding wider wheels and tires and other mods seems odd to me. I would only drive one to save money (maybe environmental reasons) and all of these things do the opposite. If driving 40k miles a year I also wonder how long you would enjoy these mods before it was time to get rid of the car.

As for the i3, seems really odd to talk about buying a small economy car for $40k+ and then talk about the money you save on gas. I am assuming the market for this is people that want to stop using gas out of principle/environment or like the odd look of the car as I can't see any financial benefit to it.

[phantomF80]

Originally Posted by David70

To the OP, buying a Prius and lowering it, adding wider wheels and tires and other mods seems odd to me. I would only drive one to save money (maybe environmental reasons) and all of these things do the opposite. If driving 40k miles a year I also wonder how long you would enjoy these mods before it was time to get rid of the car.

As for the i3, seems really odd to talk about buying a small economy car for $40k+ and then talk about the money you save on gas. I am assuming the market for this is people that want to stop using gas out of principle/environment or like the odd look of the car as I can't see any financial benefit to it.

Not sure now, but most of BMW dealers were giving enormous discount on i3 earlier this year. You can buy one for around $40k, and with $10k in tax break, you can have the car for the same price as the higher end Prius. There are also many people (including ourselves) who leased their i3 for around $200 a month. Not sure if they are still running these special promotes though...

[MightyMouseTech]

Buying a new car to "save money" on gas is never a smart decision.

Spending $40,000 to save $100/month never adds up.

[phantomF80]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

Buying a new car to "save money" on gas is never a smart decision.

Spending $40,000 to save $100/month never adds up.

Agreed. Though with OP driving 100 miles a day, the saving could be much higher than $100/month, depending on the MPG he is getting with current car vs. Prius or diesel cars. Too bad there aren't any long range EV at $40k or lower, otherwise the saving could push toward $300 a month.

[hellrotm]

GenII Volt would travel 50 of the OP's 100 daily miles on pure electric. Leaving the gas engine for drive home, which gets 41 mpg (city/highway combined). Also doesn't take into account if the OP has charging stations at or near work. $26k with incentives. It is the most versatile plug-in available, zero range anxiety.

[SunnyD]

Originally Posted by saxon

i know quite a few people who own performance cars and have a prius as their daily driver

That's me right here